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Does anybody plow with a International TerraStar?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by gallihersnow, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    I've been looking at class 4/5 trucks, and have been particularly interested in the International TerraStar. I can get a brand new 2013 with a Switch 'N' Go system and 11' trash body for $60,000. That's about $5,000 cheaper than a similarly equipped F-550. I can also get a 2006 GMC 4500 4x4 diesel with Switch 'N' Go system with two bodies(flatbed and contractor dump) with 39,000 miles for $36,500(not including shipping the truck from NV to NC). The GMC is a nice truck at a very good price, BUT the truck has no warranty left on it, and that worries me a little. I'd like to hear from some TerraStar owner's on how their truck is holding up to the abuse the landscape/snow removal industry puts on it. I would also like to hear some opinions on the new truck vs used truck argument.
     
  2. SDLandscapes VT

    SDLandscapes VT Senior Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 300

    Get the GMC--for that money warranty is a non issue and 39K miles is brand new.
     
  3. alldayrj

    alldayrj PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,097

    Doesnt the terrastar have a higher gvwr? That seems like a great price with the s n go
     
  4. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    The TerraStar has a GVWR of 19,500.
     
  5. SDLandscapes VT

    SDLandscapes VT Senior Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 300

    I have a switch and go and to appreciate that setup to the fullest you really need a truck in the 26000 to 33000 class--also get the hydraulic clutch pump for the hoist.
     
  6. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    I've looked at an F-6/750 sized truck, but I can't justify a truck of that size and cost at this point. The F-550/5500 sized truck is perfect for me right know.
     
  7. sven1277

    sven1277 Senior Member
    Messages: 480

    I second SD..The Kodiak has a dmax and 4wd. With only 39k and sng, its a good deal. International makes great trucks, but without 4wd, I wouldn't.
     
  8. SDLandscapes VT

    SDLandscapes VT Senior Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 300

    So of the two options listed for galliher I definitely would choose the GMC. I would encourage him though to look further and not settle for either of these options. The Terrastar is a nice truck, but you can find used internationals with low mileage and put a new S & G on for peanuts--and get a bigger truck 26K GVW. I say all this because I own a S & G and we primarily do landscaping. The S & G cans have totally made our equipment trailers a thing of the past as we haul excavators and skid steers in the cans. You can't haul this type of equipment with a truck of GVW 19.5K and thus hinder your flexibility with the S & G. He is also from NC--I could plow with my 2wd international here in VT with good weight in the back no problem so I don't think 4 x 4 is necessary. I just don't want him to buy short and then realize man I could do so much more if I had only........
     
  9. SDLandscapes VT

    SDLandscapes VT Senior Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 300

  10. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    SD,

    What do you think of this F-650? It looks like a screaming deal to me with 10 cans.
     
  11. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

  12. SDLandscapes VT

    SDLandscapes VT Senior Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 300

    Seems steep--your best deal will be an international and it will be the best value too. No frills, just a solid work truck
     
  13. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    Would you recommend staying with the 4700 like your truck? Or moving up to a newer 4300? I've found plenty of ex-rental 4300 cab/chassis for between $10-15,000.
     
  14. crawla

    crawla Member
    Messages: 30

    Also the hooklift weighs more but if you are switching cans out alot its worth it. I built a F650 with a SNG this spring and I can only legal carry 4.5-5 tons. I bought a used box truck and took the box off, shortened the frame, mounted an I pack and the SNG.
     
  15. gallihersnow

    gallihersnow Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    I feel that the SnG would probably be better for my needs as a landscaper, BUT that 650 was attractive to me because it comes with 10 dumpsters and I could add dumpster rental to my list of services.
     
  16. alldayrj

    alldayrj PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,097

    The 4300s are great trucks. I just got an 02 and everything is amazing. Power. Turning. Interior. I want to add a roll off system to another truck in a year or two and woudnt hesitate to do it on a 4300