1. Welcome to PlowSite. Notice a fresh look and new features? It’s now easier to share photos and videos, find popular topics fast, and enjoy expanded user profiles. If you have any questions, click HELP at the top or bottom of any page, or send an email to help@plowsite.com. We welcome your feedback.

    Dismiss Notice

Dodge Cummins

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Duncan IN, Jan 8, 2001.

  1. Duncan IN

    Duncan IN Member
    Messages: 36

    I am considering getting a 2001 Dodge ram with the High output cummins and putting a Boss v plow on it. I was wondering if any of you guys have heard how this setup does overall at plowing. This will also be my truck for my lawncare business. Any Input would be greatly appreciated.

    Levi Duncan
     
  2. Kent Lawns

    Kent Lawns PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 315

    Oh, it'll move a mountain.

    Just doesn't have the tranny to do it. And the I-6 Cummins doesn't rev enough to plow in low range.

    Awesome engine, rest of the truck? Well, we sold the 6 we had, I'll tell you that.
     
  3. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,154

    I guess Kent would know more than i do,I only had one Dodge,but i guess it was a good one,because i never had any tranny trouble plowing commercially for 3 yrs,and it had turned up power.I think your vehicles treat you well if you simply drive them with care and follow recommended service intervals.I do know that 1 st off with the torque the Cummins puts out,low range isnt needed much,my auto never overheated or did anything wrong,in fact it is the quickest shifting truck ive ever had from forward to reverse and back,it made plowing a pleasure.I had 3.55's and 33" tires which should be the worst pushing combo,the Cummins loved the high gearing,my problems were it nickeled and dimed me to death,it was the little things-like fuel sender,axle seal,power lock solenoid,steering wander (easy to fix,but shouldnt have to),tranny line leaks.The high output Cummins is only avaiable with the NV5600 6 speed manual,plenty strong for plowing,and all the 24 valves will rev to 3400RPM's,plenty high for a diesel.Oh yeah,it will move mountains,these trucks can put the power to the ground,isnt much that'll outpush it.
     
  4. PMU

    PMU Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    I have to say that the Dodge-Cummins is my favorite truck.
    Had a Chevy 454 with 4.56 gears, and my Dodge would out tow
    that Chevy AND get better mileage while towing than the
    Chevy would get empty! That said, the Cummins has so much
    torque it really works better with the manual. I plow with
    the manual and a straight 9' Western, and for me it works
    well enough to accept the manual tranny. Wait a couple years
    and Dodge will have a decent automatic, and that should be
    a near perfect truck. For now, if you get the automatic be
    aware the Cummins can really heat the tranny fluid. Also
    know that with a V plow you will be pretty close to the max
    front axle rating, and will need 500-600 pounds aft of the
    rear axle to meet federal weight% on Front/Rear balance.
     
  5. ProSeasons

    ProSeasons Senior Member
    Messages: 624

    I've got a Dodge 2001 1 ton with a 9'2" Boss Vee and a Snowman 8' SC with a TrynEx SnowEx mini spreader in the trailer hitch.One word, BEAUTIFUL! The Cummins is a friggin' monster!I've got 11 commercial accounts and a whole bunch of second day residentials. The new H.O. 6 Speed tranny has not even blinked.......YET.You won't believe the amount of snow this thing'll push.
     
  6. PMU

    PMU Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    SnoThrowers, sounds like a great rig! I'd like to hear your
    opinion on that Boss V-plow.
     
  7. DaveO

    DaveO PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Ma.
    Messages: 299

    Cummins

    Kent,

    By any chance were your 6 Rams of the 94-96 era? Like Johnny D. said, the H.O. comes ONLY with the 6 speed. Supposedly a very stout tranny. The auto's have been upgraded also. No doubt they can put large strain on the tranny's, no other engine has that much low end torque.

    Dave
     
  8. Kent Lawns

    Kent Lawns PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 315

    We've ran mostly Dodges from '78 - '98.

    The priemier years seemed to be late '80's. We still have our '89 Diesel. That diesel has 310,00 miles on it. It's a salt truck now. Never took the trans out of the truck!

    Our 94-98 Diesels averaged a trans every 1.4 years or about 16,000 miles. And they say the new trans is the same as a 727, I think not.

    I don't know about the new model tansmission and I'm not about to find out.
     
  9. DaveO

    DaveO PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Ma.
    Messages: 299

    Kent,

    Tranny every 16k miles?! No doubt you switched to another truck. I have 24K on my '01, have towed a lot, but no plowing so far. Trans is like new...for now. Guess time will tell. Can't beat the power/milage.

    Dave
     
  10. PMU

    PMU Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    DaveO, the key to long auto life seems to be letting the
    torque converter lock up (or letting the revs build) before
    applying full power. I have a good friend with 150000 on his
    auto, and he tows about 30% of the time at 26000GCWR. His
    auto lives because knows the hardest thing on an auto is low
    speed&low rpm combined with high torque.
     
  11. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,154

    The other key seems to be do nmot use park when idling,use N and set the parking brake.i think most of the trannys in plow trucks are burning up way to fast,mine was fine,but thrn again i have only burned up one tranny in my plowing so far,it was al ong time ago,a TH350,the cooler line let go-you know the rest.
     
  12. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    John,

    I have been wondering a little about that. I frequently stop and put my truck in park, and let it idle for a few minutes to cool off the tranny. I know the trans is still pumping in park, cause when I installed the cooler, I had to crank the engine to see which line was the return line to the tranny. I had the truck in park, cranked the engine, and it fired up almost instantly, so I quickly shut it off. When I walked back around the front of my truck, the whole passenger side of the engine was coated in ATF.

    Does it actually cool off better if you leave it idle in neutral?

    -Tim
     
  13. John DiMartino

    John DiMartino PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,154

    Gm's flow in park,no difference in cooling,but Dodge,up til now did not,you could literally unhook the cooler lines,leave them dangling and fire it up,and no leaks,the second you take it out of park,itll fill a gallon jug in about 10 seconds.i sometimes wonder how mine lasted the first yr i had it,i didnt know this and i never shut of my trucks when plowing,especially deisel,so even when i would stop at the diner for lunch,I would activate the remote start and leave it running for way over an hr sometimes,that poor tranny.Once i found out about it,i got a spare key cut,and left the extra key in it,in N ,brake on,with plow down,then i know the tranny is cooling off instead of heating up.
     
  14. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    Ahhh... yeah now that you mention it, a guy I work with has a Ram. The other day when I was changing my trans fluid, he mentioned how he has to go out and drive his around for a while, and actually get it into OD before he can top his off. Said something about a secondary reservoir that opens up or something in OD. Thanks for the reply though...

    -Tim
     
  15. ProSeasons

    ProSeasons Senior Member
    Messages: 624

    PMU Wisconsin

    Paoli, eh ? Well,send us some snow! As for the Boss Vee,here goes my 2 cents....this is a very tough plow,trust me!I've hit some things that were a bit tougher than a snowbank,if you catch my drift(get it,drift?never mind.)it cycles very fast in and out of it's different configurations and it has made me at least 40% faster.Now for the down side.They trip funny,the whole d*#m thing will stand up on it's point,and THAT will wake you up right now! Also, they don't backdrag worth a nickle.Boss has a locking cylinder upgrade but be careful,a guy came walking into the shop last week carrying the remains of a Smartlock cylinder.Smart my A$$.It looked like a grenade went off in that thing. He said he hit something.I thought to myself "No! Really?".That's a $500.00 upgrade. I bit the bullet and bought the pull plow.