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Do my prices seem fair?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by mechanicojoe, Oct 28, 2010.

  1. mechanicojoe

    mechanicojoe Junior Member
    Messages: 6

    Hey everyone,

    Been lurking through the fourms for the past 2 years. Im up here in Canada and have worked with a landscaping company and now im getting into residential snow removal. I have some prices here i came up with. The property's are in a city and are not the biggest. So please give me your feed back with my prices. NO HATING OR NEGATIVE COMMENTS PLEASE...thanks I also use a commercial walk behind sweeper to clear the snow so i have to add in gas....ect ect

    PRICES:
    Walkway and Sidewalks - $50/month
    1 Car Garage - $60/month
    2 Car Garage - $70/month
    3 Car Garage - $80/month
     
  2. mechanicojoe

    mechanicojoe Junior Member
    Messages: 6

    i just want to make sure im not lowballing myself and giving myself a cheap name around town. Hopefully im not pricing to high either?
     
  3. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,033

    ahhhhh, ok. The garage size makes no difference. What's the width and length of these drives? Paved or Gravel? Any obstacles? Any Turn around, or second entrances? You need to paint a bigger picture to get any help.

    Are you only using a sweeper, or do you have a truck & plow?
     
  4. straightlinelan

    straightlinelan Member
    Messages: 53

    unless you have a crap load of driveways in a row, seems way low to me.
     
  5. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,033

    HOLY CRAP.......I just noticed the "month" part of it. Time to go back to the drawing board young grass hopper.
     
  6. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    I actually didn't think his prices were that bad. I don't know what his market is like though.
     
  7. mechanicojoe

    mechanicojoe Junior Member
    Messages: 6

    hey thanks for the reply,

    They are paved. Most are 10ft wide and 15ft long. no obstacles. Here are some typical houses actually in my city. And these are the houses i will be servicing. I do own a 2004 gmc 2500hd and a 94 chevy 1500. I havent gotten plows yet because i dont need to expand that much. I use a 40inch sweeper and a 36inch snowblower attachment. I also salt and sand.

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  8. mechanicojoe

    mechanicojoe Junior Member
    Messages: 6

    oh btw, i actually 59 apartment walk ways lined up from our real estate seller. After we showed him some of our landscaping he offered it to me.
     
  9. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,033

    Well yeah, the market thing always gets in the way. At $60 a month....no way. I can nail most small drives (say 15' X 50') for $30 per storm (- 6" or less), even with only 3 storms per month...your already a third over what he wants. Even if you went down to $25...
     
  10. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,033

    Simple enough, but I still wouldn't touch them for $60 per month. If they were tight together I would swipe them for $20 -$25 a storm, with NO shoveling. And that's with a plow.
     
  11. mechanicojoe

    mechanicojoe Junior Member
    Messages: 6

    mkay i see what you're saying. But i also have about 59 of these apartments that needs to be cleaned everysnow fall. its just the sidewalk and the walkway to the stairs. how would you recommend pricing this out? I also did some research for competition in my area and thier prices are about the same as mine. But thanks for the help so far, i appreciate it!

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  12. RepoMan207

    RepoMan207 PlowSite Fanatic
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,033

    Price it by the hour. I know you don't have any experience, so your first year estimating time and what not is going to be hit or miss. Do your best, walk through and envision yourself going through the steps. Then throw on...say another 20% to cover your butt. I'm not sure what you get for snow up that way, but it must be pretty significant. Doing this all by hand is going to be time consuming. Don't over extend yourself, or have a back up plan for help. Good Luck!
     
  13. mechanicojoe

    mechanicojoe Junior Member
    Messages: 6

    hey thanks repoman,

    we do get a good amount of snow here due to being close the the rocky mountains! Im just gonna do what i can and see where it takes me! thanks
     
  14. Chineau

    Chineau Senior Member
    Messages: 447

    Pricing.

    For the driveway $50.00 plus tax on the apartment walk ways and such per hour on the job. Most times you will be in and out quick but then you get a real snow bomb and you are at it for a while and trust me when it is hour two or more at the snow blower you will wonder if it is worth it. don't undersell your time and equipment it becomes a problem down the round trying to raise your price.
     
  15. SharpBlades

    SharpBlades Senior Member
    Messages: 366

    I would say jorget the sweeper or blower for anything but the sidewalks... I imagine you are going to spend a lot of time on those sidewalks if you get any accumulation. Just go on craigslist and find yourself a decent 8' straight blade. then you will be able to knock out those driveways fast and still have time for sidewalks.

    As for your pricing... how many events per year do you average in your area?
     
  16. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

    This will give you confidence in your bidding.

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    Go to www.profitsareus.com or call us at 800-845-0499 to order. Feel free to call us with any questions you might have as well. Being a full-service lawn & landscaping business myself since 1979, I know what a contractor is looking for; something simple, accurate and professional. This package is it.
     
  17. BOSS TOY

    BOSS TOY Member
    Messages: 52

    I figure if you Get a truck with a plow, and have more than say 15 of these houses you'll save tonnes of time and have more equipment to get better contracts with. And you wont get exhausted if it snows Lots.:bluebo:yow! How much does it snow, price seems low:yow!:.