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Diner/rest bidding help

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by UniqueTouch, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. UniqueTouch

    UniqueTouch Senior Member
    Messages: 165

    hey guys i have an opportunity for bidding a diner, its open 24 hours. 2inch trigger. i dont know how to price it or even what options to use. lot of experience plowing but not pricing. its about an acre and half. without salt thank you
     
  2. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,028

    Pictures would help. How much do you charge per hour? I'd bid an acre and a half at 180.00-200.00 per push without salt. Just a guess without seeing it. But insurance rates in Jersey are crazy, so it would probably be a lot more in your area to cover your expenses.
     
  3. MSsnowplowing

    MSsnowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 711

    No salting on a 24 hour diner?

    Unless your contract states the owner of that diner is completely responsible for slip and falls, I would run, not walk, run away from this.

    How many slip and falls did they have before the last contractor said enough and walked?

    Looking at roughly 45 min. to 1 hour for 1.5 acres depending on curbs, placement of snow, etc... could be a little less or more.

    So how much do you have to make per hour to make a profit?

    Make sure you bump it up a bit because your going to be going there a lot because it is a 24 hour diner, you will be coming back to clear spots of cars that were there while you were plowing.

    good luck.
     
  4. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    I see you have been around for a couple of years,
    Soo....
    You will plow it every time there is 2" on the ground.
    The avg guy can plow an onen acre in under an hr.
    How long does it take you to plow a acre?
    Sidewalks? Salt?
    What are your salt prices?

    I'm sure you have sat down and figured out how much it costs to run your operation a hr and what you want for profit.

    So, you tell us, what is your bid to plow it every time there is 2"?

    You don't need a price for 3-6 or 7-10" becuse you would have plowed it at 2".

    I have serviced 3, 24/7 restraunts at the same time and none of them wanted salt. In 12 years of servicing them I never heard about even one slip/fall.
    And these places were close to bars and would fill up at after last call.

    Lucky, maybe,
     
  5. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,248

    No luck, the people I know from northern Minn walk better liquored up, understand what snow/ice does to the ground and they wear appropriate footwear.
     
  6. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,857

    Weirdest thing that some people grasp the concept that snow is slippery.
     
  7. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,164

    I used to fall down drunk in the summer....
     
  8. SHAWZER

    SHAWZER PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,151

    U don't any more ?...:D
     
  9. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,164

    I don't drink anymore, people used to think I was obnoxious...:D
     
  10. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,857

    You're not anymore?
     
  11. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,164

    Only to other obnoxiers....
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,857

    Lol........
     
  13. UniqueTouch

    UniqueTouch Senior Member
    Messages: 165

    thanks guys

    appreciate it, really do, have a good night guys,
     
  14. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,518

    Don't let those morons get to Ya,
    A few of us asked legit questions only u can answer.
     
  15. SHAWZER

    SHAWZER PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,151

    A few more details on the lot and you would get better answers . Just trying to keep up with some of the biggest morons on this site ....:D
     
  16. Randall Ave

    Randall Ave PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,977

    Dinner owners are cheap. Never seen one here plowed during a storm every two inches. If you gotta hit the whole lot every time, 175.00
     
  17. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,248

    City Wok uses busboys with shovels to clear the parking lot and woks.
     
  18. Randall Ave

    Randall Ave PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,977

    We were in a diner one night, the owner said he would buy us breakfast if we plowed his lot, we just paid for our eggs.
     
  19. UniqueTouch

    UniqueTouch Senior Member
    Messages: 165

    update. i spoke to the owner. he said he will put it in writing that if he decides to not have me salt that i am not responsible. believe it or not he said since it isnt busy when it snows he probably only going to want it done once unless we get about 10 plus inches then only twice. and he'll let me know when he wants it salted. i measured the lot it is 65000 sqft. with 100 ft of side walks
     
  20. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,248

    FWIW customers that don't want to commit to a regular schedule and services end up being a PITA. If you have the resource capacity and mental bandwidth to deal with this bid it, I'd rather have a route that's remains constant for every storm.

    Out west a 65k lot with 100ft of 48" walk would go for $200-250.00 for 1-4"and no salt