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Diesel vs. Gas for plowing?

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by thepawnshop, Nov 3, 2004.

  1. thepawnshop

    thepawnshop Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    After posting I found the thread I needed.....sorry!
     
  2. I run a 2001 c3500. I pull bobcat s185, and much more. it's a dump bed that I've had over three ton of rock in the bed (no more suspension, but motor had plenty of power :eek: ) Its the gas 6.0, I did not wan't to spend the extra 6800 on the diesel. I have just recently installed a supercharger, to help me with gas mileage, which it definately has. And the power boost is awesome 410hp. I'll line up against a diesel anyday :drinkup:

    p.s. It sounds cool too :D
     
  3. The Boss

    The Boss 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,099

    Too bad you have to have the supercharger to try and run with a diesel. :nod: :D
     
  4. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    Don't most "newer" diesel's have a turbo charger???
     
  5. The Boss

    The Boss 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,099

    Stock. No supercharger
     
  6. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    I wonder how much power a diesel woud have with out those turbos???
     
  7. The Boss

    The Boss 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,099

    Plenty :nod:
     
  8. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    No doubt, Bet it is all low end.... no real HP with out turbo...
     
  9. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    mine didnt have any forced induction at all and I pulled a dodge ram with a v-10 that had a blower on it backwards not once, not twice, but 3 times he had 4x4 and I had a 2wd dually, lol

    heres my truck idling shortly before I pulled hm across the lot:
    [​IMG]

    dont need any turbo or blower to get "r" done! pumpkin:
     
  10. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    All that low end torque gets you nothing in the snow but spinning tires.....
     
  11. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    LOL almost 450 hp@ 2800 and 700+ ft lbs @ 1400

    :rolleyes:
     
  12. The Boss

    The Boss 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,099

    Any more questions? :rolleyes:
     
  13. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    exactly... show me a tire that will keep traction in the snow with all that torque going to them... Ya gotta have a lot of weight to keep it.....
     
  14. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    the same could also be said for people that plow with the transfer case in low range
     
  15. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    I am not debating the power of diesel... If I had a lot a wieght to pull I would say diesel hands down...., but pushing snow requires a balance of power and traction.....
     
  16. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    do you drive with the throttle mashed to the floorboard all the time, atleast I dont.... the same motor making 500ft lbs @ full throttle will make less if there is less fuel/throttle and <100ft lbs at idle or less \

    more fuel/air= power
    less fuel/air= less power!
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2004
  17. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    No I do not drive with my foot to the floor board, but if you what a diesel that has 700 ft/lbs of torque at 1400 rpms, Idle is usually around 500 so do the math, it still has a lot of torque that the tires will have to deal with in the snow...

    It is a matter of opinion... you are going to think diesels are better, I say it depends on what equipment you have, and in some cases I bet a gas would be a better choice..
     
  18. The Boss

    The Boss 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,099

    It's funny that I've plowed with my diesel for 4 years and never had a problem spinning in the snow. :rolleyes:
    I've pushed piles twice as big as a gasser does.
    Nothing against gassers.
     
  19. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    just because a motor "can" make 700 ft lbs @ 1400 rpm dosent mean that it will it depends on the amount of throttle you are giving it :rolleyes:
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2004
  20. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    There are two many variables to just say "I push piles twice as big as a gasser" mean any thing. To be accurate, you would have to have the same trucks, same weight(front and rear axle weight), same tires, even the same driver....