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Diamond plows any good?

Discussion in 'Meyer / Diamond Products Discussion' started by swamprebel, Oct 12, 2006.

  1. swamprebel

    swamprebel Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 9

    are Diamond plows any good? i was looking at a used truck that has one on it.does meyer make this plow or is there a company called Diamond that makes it?:yow!:
     
  2. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,990

    Meyer bought Diamond to add a trip edge plow to their line up to compete against Fisher.
    They are a different design from the Meyer full trip blade except for shared lights, and hydraulics.
    Don't see many of them in this area.
     
  3. swamprebel

    swamprebel Junior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 9

    yeah its the first time i saw one.I like fisher plows myself cause of the trip blade and they tend to be a little more heavy duty of a plow.but anyway thanks for the info on it.
     
  4. Flipper

    Flipper PlowSite.com Addict
    from CT
    Messages: 1,180

    Diamond is by far heavuer then Fisher and anything else for a one ton. Very heavy plow. I ran a 9ft on a 350 for street plowing and it looked new after 5 years of hard plowing. Very agressive curve, good trip edge. It was the best you could run without getting into blades made for municipalities. Diamonds were started by people who left Fisher. They made a great V-plow as well, many of the ideas have been used in Meyers new V-plow. When Fisher built there MC line it was copied off of the Diamonds. I like Fishers too but I still have that Diamond and am looking for an mid 90 Ford to remount it on.
     
  5. Yaz

    Yaz PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,061

    Flipper said...Diamonds were started by people who left Fisher. I think they were the guys they fired! lol:dizzy:


    What I didn't like about plowing with a Dimond...

    Single connector to hook up

    Poor connections a lot of weight hanging off of one point.wesport I had trouble with it. Breaker would blow on the controller and light would come on. I would have to shut the truck off and re-start it to set it back. when it acted funny I would raise up and it would angle left..:dizzy:

    You had to take the jack off and move it under the plow when you to took the plow off. And hand crank it.. what a PIA


    What I liked about it.

    Color coded Pin handles

    Lights

    Price

    Conclusion: I'll never plow with one again..:salute:
     
  6. Flipper

    Flipper PlowSite.com Addict
    from CT
    Messages: 1,180

    Those are the newer Diamonds made by Meyer. The older ones were just like Fisher conventional plows. They even would hook into Fishers frames. The ran off belt drive hydraulics, the same as Fisher and again the parts interchaged.

    I know one of the people who originally started Diamond. When one was fired a few others left to start Diamond.

    The only part of Diamond that remains is the heavy trip edge plow. If you can put up with the Meyer stuff it is still the Heaviest plow you can get. If it is an older model you can't go wrong.
     
  7. plowman20

    plowman20 Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    I dont really like the Meyer Snow Plows because there not built well. I prefer fisher because they are built much heavier. I have a fisher minute mount on a GMC pick up and thats lasted 3 years of heavy plow without a problem.
     
  8. I run a newer Diamond 8' with the EZ-Mount Plus system on my F-250. I've plowed roads municipally for the past three years with it and have not had any problems. The plow is heavy, well built and well finished. Keep it greased and hosed off and it should last forever.
     
  9. Nascar24

    Nascar24 Senior Member
    Messages: 645

    As you might be able to tell I'm biased by Diamond Plows

    To clear up some of the mis info out there,

    Diamond plows are not heavier than a Fisher when comparing competing models,

    Diamond plows are no longer run by under the hood pumps and yes they are owned by Meyer Products.

    As basher had said they use Meyer Lighting, Wiring and Pump systems along with the MDII / plus mounting systems.

    They are definately a rugged blade, as well built as a Fisher, They have adjustable spring tension where Fishers do not, this allows for a much smoother trip action, not as harsh as a Fisher. The attack angle is also much more versatile, provides good back dragging as well as good sno flow and ice peeling capabilities.

    Utilization of the MD Mounting system allows for easier and less costly transfering from one brand of truck to another when upfitting , $450-$600 vs $1200+ on a Fisher.

    The Jacking method of the MDII system is much easier to adjust when pulling up to than a MMI or MMII especially when utilizing different trucks.

    I have found in most regions of the country, Meyer has a better network of dealers and overall better source of replacement parts.

    The guy's who started Fisher were not fired , they left because Fisher would not pay for their designs and trademarks that were used in Fisher plows, In the end Fisher paid for most of the start up for the Diamond plow company in a settlement agreement for trademark and pattern infrindgement, Selling Diamond plows to Meyer was just the last "Get Back at You" towards The Fisher group.

    IMHO The New Meyer Saber II lights are far better than the new intensifiers from DD, you need to plow with both lighting systems to see and believe the difference.

    All in all, I think Fisher and Diamond/ Meyers make good products, I have owned and used both, each one has advantages in one area vs another, but both are good plows, it's like the Ford, Chevy, Dodge argument, there are no clear winners just plenty of opinions, and we all know what they are like........A$$ Wholes and everyone has one! lol
     
  10. Booman70

    Booman70 Senior Member
    Messages: 108

    Good plows wouldn't own anything else. Especially a red one.
     
  11. 04sd

    04sd Senior Member
    from pa
    Messages: 266

    Great first post in a Meyer forum :)
    BTW, it's great that your Fisher has lasted for 3 years, we won't tell all the guys that are still running 20 and 30 year old Meyer plows :D
     
  12. tastebeer

    tastebeer Member
    Messages: 81

    Are Diamonds good

    The older Diamonds (prior to 2009) are by far the toughest plow ever made for 3/4 - 1ton trucks. They have more steel and better torsional rigidity than any other manufacturer. The only downfall is the Meyer pump system which has been plauged with problems.

    In the past yr Meyer has redisigned the Daimond plow and it is no longer as robust as before. Meyer has reduced the amount of torsional strength and the moldboard is now 12ga not the 11ga they had before. Meyer reps insist testing on the new Daimond has not had failures, but I an VERY skepticle. Comparing the two side by side will clearly show how 'weak' the new Diamond is compared to the old style. As any plower knows this business is demanding and any weak links will show at 2am. I'm not willing to spend my dollars on equipment that I believe will not perform under demanding conditions.
     
  13. LockedUP

    LockedUP Senior Member
    Messages: 114

    Old thread..
    I have a 2004 maybe diamond MDII...The best piece of machinery I have ever owned..
    Just goes and goes and goes..Can't bend it or break it..Electrics are great..
    The only thing I did was to get rid of those pesky quick release connectors on the hyd hoses.. No one should ever have those POS connectors as they fail and cause really weird symptoms. I use it on my F350 SD..

    Had an old Meyer on a toyota truck way back..It was the biggest POS on the planet.
    Everything bent and broke..I rebuilt it with lotsa metal and it worked well but just about redesigned the whole thing..
     
  14. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    We have a 2000 9' Diamond on a F350 (2wd) and it just keeps on piling the snow. Strong, sturdy, good plow.