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death wobble

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by woosha, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. woosha

    woosha Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    My friend just got a 2006 dodge 1500 quard cab 4x4 4.7
    He put a 2 inch lift in the front and now if he tows his trailer he has death wobble.:realmad:
    Or when he puts in 4x4 it shakes side to side
    Truck has 12000 miles on it.
    How can we stop this. Woody
     
  2. terrapro

    terrapro PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,873

    he needs to shim the front diff. his trans axle is out of alignment
     
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,487

    Did he remove the track-bar?
    http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=49686

    Dodge trucks do not have a "trans axle" so how could it be out of alignment?
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2007
  4. terrapro

    terrapro PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,873

    actually i was just about to come back here and say i do not know a damn thing about dodges though!lol

    so how do they transfer power to the front end if there is no form of trans axle?
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2007
  5. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,853

    I think it's safe to say you don't know anything about trucks, period.

    I don't think any trucks have transaxles, at least none that I'm aware of.

    Transaxles are in front wheel drive cars where the engine is mated to the transmission, one assembly more or less, in layman's terms.

    Trucks on the other hand, are rear wheel drive vehicles. Engine mated to transmission mated to transfer case. Normally, rear driveshaft turns, engage 4WD by pulling lever\flipping switch and the gears engage the front driveshaft sending power to the front axle.

    Go with SF's advice, that's more than likely the issue.

    This may not be 100% accurate, but it is at least 95% accurate, which is about 95% more than your initial advice.
     
  6. terrapro

    terrapro PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,873

     
  7. payton

    payton Senior Member
    Messages: 470

    dodge has a bulletin out on the dodge front ends.. shimmy at varying speeds.. to fix the problem it calls for inner out tie rod and some other bull ****. my buddies wife is a service writer for a local dodge.. so i can pull the info on my truck at will.. its kinda nice..

    payton
     
  8. woosha

    woosha Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    wobble

    this truck has had it when it was brand new!!!
    More so when its in 4x4.
    dodge cant find nothing wrong!!
    Says its the 2 inch lift.
    but did it in 4x4 when the lift wasnt there.!!!
     
  9. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,487

    Trans-axles are in front wheel drive & rear engine driven cars where the transmission is the axle ,thus a trans-axel.

    No big deal the other terminology is the same.
    front drive shaft. front axle, differential, transfer-case.

    A 2" lift is modest, he will not need to shim up the axle.
    actually it may have an adjustable front end as mine does
    ( just a few turns of a wrench)

    Plus his stock track-bar will still work o.k.
    He can get an adjustable one from an aftermarket vendor.
    Look in any off-road mag, for one.

    payton,
    Just be careful when at the dealer they like to sell a lot of extra front end parts as it = big $$$.

    But you are right it could be a tie rod but he mentioned he lifted his truck which leads me to believe that he removed the track bar?
     
  10. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,487

    Is it a vibration or does the steering wheel shake too?
    a vibration would have me looking at the front drive shaft?
    steering wheel shaking=track bar or steering componets.

    My first track-bar went bad at 32k.

    I ran in to this at the dealer too, they put it on the alignment rack ,
    then told me it was in specs??
    I said:::realmad:The D$mm thing shakes, the track bar is bad !

    They say:nono:

    I say,
    Put a new track bar on it as it is still under warranty.

    They say:nono:
    but we will do whatever you want if YOU want to pay for it?

    I say: put it ON!

    When I go to pick it up they hand me the keys and say.
    No charge, ;)

    No more wobble...
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2007
  11. payton

    payton Senior Member
    Messages: 470

    who goes to the dealer? my buddies wife works at the dealer he owns and runs his own shop. he has all her pass words and log on info for dodge direct or what ever its called.. we log on from his shop. mine did the same thing after i put the leveling kit it .

    payton
     
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,487

    Hummm:confused:
    I installed new springs that gave me 21/2" lift with no wobbles or problems.

    warranty= dealer;)
     
  13. gotsnow?

    gotsnow? Senior Member
    Messages: 257

    :nod: I just added a 2" leveling kit on the front of my 97 1500 and I have some death wobble when the plow is on; however only every once in a while..... ? I know on jeepsunlimited.com/forums (which I used to frequent when I drove a jeep) they always preached a track bar adjustment would be needed to remedy this issue. David-
     
  14. pinepointe

    pinepointe Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    If you own a Dodge 1500 and not a Dodge 1500 Heavy Duty you have a arm suspension with torsion bars. If you own a Heavy Duty 1500 you have a AAM solid front axile. Figure out which type and then figure out a fix.
     
  15. DAFFMOBILEWASH

    DAFFMOBILEWASH PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,596

    Is the wobble dependent on speed?? At a lower speed is the wobble more agressive than at 50km/h. If so, look for a tire with a broken belt. Had the same issue on a 03 1500 Dodge. Turned out to be caused by the tires were too light duty for the application. By what you said in the post it seems the truck is used for work more than for pleasure.

    DAFF
     
  16. cepp

    cepp Junior Member
    Messages: 8

    ok... dodges track bars are junk, except for the new trucks which have a changed design, which has a eyelet on both ends instead of a ball and socket. none the less they are still prone to wear out. but not as bad as previous year dodge rams. one thing u mentioned is u have a 2" lift or leveling kit on the truck. one concern is when u install a 2" leveling kit on a dodge ram, it kicks the front axle over toward the passenger side becasue of the track bar being solid and non adjustable. death wobble can be contributed to poor alignment. which is what the leveling kit has done. it changed camber and caster on the front end as well. my suggestion is to look into solid steel industries adjustable track bar for your truck. its made for straighting out the front end after a leveling kit. once u get that installed, take it and have it agligned. u could also do a little searching as dodge and cummins forums are huge and the knowledge base to maybe get u better suspension set up tips and specs other than the ones that dodge or anyother alignment shop would have. where u could just print it off and take it to them and have them align it to these specs.
     
  17. plowboy21

    plowboy21 Member
    Messages: 30

    did he put the 2 inch keyways on it then crank the **** out of them if so he is binding up the front short shafts on the front between the diff and the hub this hapend to me on my old gmc and it wore the front out with in 20,000 mile so tell him to back them off they r built to level the truck not lift it but that is only if he went keys which i think he did cause i cant find 2 two inch for any dodge truck unless i do a leveling kit with seperat blocks or add a leaf so i desided im going with the one ton 4" lift on my dodge 2500
     
  18. 92XT

    92XT Senior Member
    Messages: 343

    upon installing a lift kit , an alignment is your next move
    caster / camber
     
  19. JCStrasser

    JCStrasser Member
    Messages: 41

  20. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,487

    Caster and camber is set in the axle no adjustment.

    Their is an adjustment on the control arms to roll the axle.
    ( to put the axle in the proper orientation.)