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Death Wobble bracket question

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by onemanband, Dec 15, 2014.

  1. onemanband

    onemanband Member
    Messages: 33

    Hello everyone, I recently picked up a Dodge 1 ton. The gentleman bought the bracket to eliminate the Death wobble. My truck its more the Ditch drift. But my dilemma is there are no instructions or ANY hardware with it. Does anyone have any pics at all with theres installed or have any idea the length of nuts an bolts I will need. Thank you for your help.
  2. rjigto4oje

    rjigto4oje PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,257

    I have seen a few videos on you tube have never done 1
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 7,919

    Death wobble is the side to side oscillation of the axle.
    It is caused by a born/flexing track bar.
    a worn track bar will/can also cause your control arms to become worn from the oscillation too.

    If your steering box needs a brace or ball-joints, bearings or tie rods you have a shimmy....

    What does this bracket look like and where does it go?
    pic or a link to a pic?
  4. onemanband

    onemanband Member
    Messages: 33

    I have a Pic of it but I have yet to figure out how to upload a pic on here. Any help with that is greatly appreciated.
    Upper an Lower Ball joints have now been replaced. Im now ordering Moog track bar, etc, etc ,etc. Im not going to try and chase down the issue part by part. Depending on who you talk to some experts are saying the Steering control box Flexes causing the drift. I will try and post a link to the bracket.
  5. onemanband

    onemanband Member
    Messages: 33

  6. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 7,919

    Ok a steering box brace.

    Some say they experience flex when they do a lift and install bigger tires. it couldn't hurt. I've never needed one with a stock set up.

    dw is all track bar, The stock one is comparable to the Moog and will last just as long.
    carli makes one that is more stout but it also costs $$$

    The bushing end can be rebuilt/replaced but the replacement bushing doesn't last very long.

    hint enlarge the window to see the upload button.
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  7. Robinson_Cnst

    Robinson_Cnst Senior Member
    Messages: 145

    I replaced my track bar bushings with Napa ones. They lasted 9 months. Have moog now, it's a huge improvement.
  8. onemanband

    onemanband Member
    Messages: 33

    Thank you Both for your help.
  9. onemanband

    onemanband Member
    Messages: 33

    Im going to be installing the track bar today.
  10. Ant118

    Ant118 Senior Member
    Messages: 184

    I have the BD TracBar and BD Steering box Brace. The brave is pretty straight forward to install. If I can figure out how to post pics from my phone I'll put one up
  11. jhenderson9196

    jhenderson9196 Senior Member
    Messages: 615

    Keep the slip on the track bar, it's a life time warranty. You haven't said what year the dodge is. It makes a difference.
  12. edgeair

    edgeair Senior Member
    Messages: 597

    Has it been determined that DW is definitively caused by a worn track bar? Last I heard Chrysler didn't know what caused it (weren't even admitting there was a problem), neither did some of the gurus in the aftermarket industry. I had a 2004 1 ton dually that got it bad if you breathed on a pothole above 60mph. Did the front end at 120000 k miles sans track bar, it went away for the year I kept it after that.

    I have a 2004 3500 SRW with 145000 miles, never had the DW. 2011 & 2012 2500's, no issues.

    I had researched DW til the cows came home when I had the dually, nobody had an answer for it. Is there a tech article out now explaining the track bar being the culprit? Most guys just started swapping parts until it went away, but it usually came back within a couple months once the new parts wore in.
  13. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    The Death Wobble is a culmination of worn parts. Therefore sometimes replacing one part will stop it.
    If only one part is replaced on a High Mile truck, as soon as that part is worn again the wobble comes back.
    9 times out of 10 replacing the track bar will stop the Death Wobble.

    The gear box brace is easy to put on. New nut on pitman arm - 4 sway bar bolts - 2 bearing bolts - lock collar on bearing.

    I have two trucks that came with these and one without it. Can't tell any difference. Had one off to put the plow on. Drove it. Put it back on. Drove it. Same.
    If you have a worn steering gear box it may help that. Or Big fat Tires.
  14. edgeair

    edgeair Senior Member
    Messages: 597

    Part of the problem for the diagnosis of the DW was that it could happen to newer trucks just the same as old worn out ones. That doesn't explain a worn out track bar causing the problem. If it was redesigned, that makes sense.
  15. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    Just curious - Newer Trucks - How new? Miles?

    I have not seen one do it with less than 80k

    Another band aid is to put on a aftermarket duel steering stabilizer.
  16. edgeair

    edgeair Senior Member
    Messages: 597

    The only truck I personally have had do it had about 120000 miles on it. My current 2004 has 145000 and has not done it once.

    Other guys have had trucks with 10000 miles on them do it. I haven't been in the seat with them, that is just what they said.
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 7,919

    The possible culmination of worn parts are directly related to the axle oscillating independently of the frame.

    The track bar is the only part that stops the axle from moving side to side.
    not the control arms not the steering linkage and not ball joints or the tires.

    Even on a low millage truck go for a new track bar.
    if its not the track bar you didn't have death wobble,
    you have a shimmy.....;)

    yes, but your steering box has no control or bearing on death wobble, yes it can cause a shimmy as the axle is not moving, just the wheels/hub

    The interdweebb is full of DW antidotes, blaming on the tires to the steering box.

    I think some just like saying Death wobbel.
    and use it as a catch phrase for everything front end related.

    ps Dodge and every dodge tech has heard of death wobble.

    I've had dodge tell me every thing is in in spec on a truck having a DW issue.:cry: techs.......:mechanic:

    told them to put in one anyway.
    Dodge said no.
    we wont cover it under warranty as it is in spec....

    I said, do it anyway and ill pay for it...
    They did,
    When I picked it up magically, they din't charge me.
    And lone behold no more DW.

    i have a couple of worn track bars in the scrap pile.


    DAFFMOBILEWASH PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,581

    DW= replace the track bar..

    Also check the front calipers for ease of movement within the sliders or pistonshanging up. This can often set off the wobble.