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Curious what you guys do dealing with.....

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Fisher II, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. Fisher II

    Fisher II Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    No salt zones due to watershed area. The town im dealing with is very difficult to deal with. My contract with commercial lot is on its third year,and up for renewal. In my contract I was told no salt! so we used sand after plowing. This is a large church 3 acres. Now as you can guess there has been slipping issues, and some people pissed....I get it, but hands are tied as to what we can do. Im researching liquid deicers to try to pre treat before storms but im not sure that the liquid deicers are accepted in watershed areas?! Funny thing is the town spreads salt on the roads all around the church. :dizzy:
  2. maelawncare

    maelawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 871

    Beet Juice?
  3. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,868

    So what happens if you spread salt?
  4. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    Azz chewing...
  5. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,868

    That's my guess but then take it to city hall, asking why they are spreading it.
  6. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    Don't you know...?
    Cities, townships, county, state are all exempt....
  7. 2ExploreSnow

    2ExploreSnow Member
    Messages: 64

    Urea is what some people have used at times. But that is generally for smaller areas.

    I'm guessing that was considered...
  8. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 805

    Get three drops of beet juice on your boot, get in your truck and turn the heat on and drive down the road - smells delicious.

    Better yet, dip your finger in some, let it dry and see how easy it comes off.

    Beet Juice - no way, at a church of all places.

    Most liquid solutions will contain chlorides of some form or another, the same chit the tree huggers have heartattacks about.
  9. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,339

    urea is nitrogen...no good in water shed areas.....
  10. Billious

    Billious Member
    Messages: 71

    Got any cheese factories around? In Wisco, we're known to use cheese brine to pre-treat the streets from time to time...
  11. CityGuy

    CityGuy PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 16,904

    We are all exempt until something happens.
  12. CityGuy

    CityGuy PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 16,904

    I guess your best option is to approach the city or watershed dist and ask what they recommend. If they say sand then ask why they are allowed to salt and your not. if you do not like the answer take it to the state level and see what they have to say. Tell them you have assumed the slip and fall liability( I assume you have) and do not want a claim.
  13. Dogplow Dodge

    Dogplow Dodge 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,539

    I have several accounts that are commercial, and I don't use any salt. I either make them do the salting, or I spread sand when necessary. Sand is biodegradable, and not caustic. It creates traction, and can be reused if you really wanted to go through the trouble.

    Yes, you need to use more of it, and more often, but make them pay for it, stipulating the regulations of the township. You could potentially make more money this way, as you'll need to be back for more visits and applications.

    EDIT: I reread your first post and it said you used sand.....
  14. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 805

    Sand biodegradable??

    Damn tree huggers got people all twisted around.
  15. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    What about calcium?