1. Welcome to PlowSite. Notice a fresh look and new features? It’s now easier to share photos and videos, find popular topics fast, and enjoy expanded user profiles. If you have any questions, click HELP at the top or bottom of any page, or send an email to help@plowsite.com. We welcome your feedback.

    Dismiss Notice

Cold\Slow Fluid

Discussion in 'Hiniker' started by starspangled6.0, Nov 20, 2014.

  1. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    Maybe this is an all-plow issue, but I noticed it pretty bad last Sunday morning. We started plowing at 12:00 AM, 20 degrees. By sunrise, it's down to 12 degrees, and the plow would get slower and slower by each degree drop. Do they actually warm up with use, or does the pump not work hard enough to change the fluid temps at all? FYI the plow has always done this; new fluid and hoses last year. It's not so slow that it can't be used, but I would prefer it to react a lot faster.
     
  2. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,001

    No they don't really warm up all that much. What fluid are you running?
    What's your side to side time?
     
  3. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    I don't know what fluid it is- the dealership did the fluid change. No idea what the side to side time is either.
     
  4. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,001

    Well need to do some homework
     
  5. NICHOLS LANDSCA

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,310

    You sure it isn't a voltage issue
     
  6. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    Quite sure. It's always related to the ambient temps.
     
  7. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,001

    Ever find out what fluid they put in it then?
     
  8. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    No. I would assume it's the factory fluid from Hiniker - the dealership changed the fluid last year, and the performance never changed.
     
  9. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,608

    If its around 12*f or below they can move a little slow but after you move it threw all of it functions it should start to speed up as you use it.

    As mentioned is your charging system keeping up?

    Or does it have the correct fluid?

    I use boss's arctic fluid ( there are 2 different fluids offered
    Reg and arctic ) in my Hiniker.

    If you go shopping for hy fluid look for a ISO32 light hy oil if bosses fluid is unavailable

    ATF will thicken and be to thick when it's cold
    Also, water, ice will coat the filter in your pump
    Causing it to run slower and slower

    I'd drain it, clean out the filter , drain the rams and refill
    And take a good look at my elictrical connections while I'm at it
     
  10. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    It certainly does speed up after a few driveways - probably wasn't too clear on this. My original question was if there's a superior product on the market, similar to full synthetic oil and conventional oil, that would give me an immediate performance boost.
     
  11. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,608

    ^yes there is , almost any fluid other than what Hiniker uses
    Lol

    also That blue plow fluid you see around, is a joke.....

    Yes, there are better fluids available than hinikers factory fill
     
  12. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    Texaco Aircraft Hydraulic Oil 5606G meets the requirements of the current U.S. military specification, MIL H 5606G, and is primarily used for military aircraft operating in a temperature range of -54°C to 135°C (-65°F to 275°F).

    http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/5-06.pdf
     
  13. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,608

    ^yea that's the Spec that is also cited on Bosses arctic fluid.
     
  14. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    So I could swap it out for BOSS fluid?
     
  15. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    I would - That is all I use - But it is in BOSS plows. My plows are only slow if it gets really cold . -10 F or so I start to notice it a little. What does Hiniker say to use? Just FYI - I have seen a plow shop put ATF in plows for service because it saved them money and they say it is the same. But it really is not and there are to many ways to look it up and find out that is totally different.
     
  16. rjigto4oje

    rjigto4oje PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,297

    No sure if this would help or work using the tight fluid is key but it probably won't hurt

    Screenshot_2014-11-30-18-12-31.jpg
     
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,608

    My boss was slow when it got cold with the factory fill, they have two fluids.

    reg and arctic.

    as mentioned stay away from ATF even if it is synthetic.
    it's not a transmission, why add friction modifiers.

    any good hydraulic oil will work, just read the specs for cold flow
    iso 32 will work until the double digest below zerro wear iso 22 will work great as long as you dont use it in temps above 100*F
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2014
  18. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

  19. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    I can not find any reference to BOSS snow plow Arctic oil? There is a BOSS oil company that is not BOSS plows.
    What is the BOSS part number on the arctic oil?
     
  20. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,608

    I went to look earlier but the sticker is gone.
    I'm bot sure what boss called ot or the part no
    I run our and see if the sticker is in the bottom of my cross box or not.

    I know they have or had 2 fluids.
    I got it from our local boss plow dealer and it has boss,s logo on it.