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City sidewalk

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by FredG, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    I bought a bombardier 48 Diesel nice machine while in Ottawa, I have a request by the City I live in to plow sidewalks. The home and biz owners are responsible for clearing there own property. There is a spot about one half mile the city will pay for. What the city does is send a guy around and property's not plowed they call you in.

    The city wants this bid on a hourly basis which I think is a good thing. I'm going to submit my bid for $45.00 per hr. including mobilization by hr. Any thoughts. So far this is the first opportunity to work this machine. All of my customers clean there own walks. Even the apartment complexes.
     
  2. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    $45.00 an hour is ok for a guy with a shovel.
    The amount of ground you can cover in that machine in hour I'd be $250.00 and hour with a 2 hour minimum.
     
  3. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    Wow I would like to see that, They had a landscaper with a good Mexican crew truck and trailer and some walk behinds last season. He was somewhere around my hourly rate. There is no long runs just residential and some small biz if not plowed. Maybe this is not a good job for this machine.
     
  4. Randall Ave

    Randall Ave 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,000

    Things are different here, to work for a township, things gotta be bid, you have to be fully insured. Did the other guy have comp on his workers, if he did he couldn't work that cheap. At your rate if it takes say four hrs, your still under 2 bills.
     
  5. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    Yes to work in any city right a way you have to have proof of workman's comp. Clearing walks behind city sidewalk no. Meaning walks to home.
     
  6. B-2 Lawncare

    B-2 Lawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 224

    This is about what we would charge as well.
     
  7. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,613

    Your really not comparing apples to apples here. The landscaper crew with walk behinds can do 400 to 600 ft per hour (not sure I don't bid sidewalks) but your machine can do maybe 2 or more miles per hour. If they took 8 hrs to do the sidewalks and it took you an hour and you each bid 45 an hour who's making more money.
     
  8. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    I'm sure you mean the $250.00?
     
  9. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    I see what your saying. I got to get more per hr because I'm covering more ground in that hr. No matter how big or small the push may be.

    You Guys are all right. I'm feel like a dumb ass now.:eek:
     
  10. B-2 Lawncare

    B-2 Lawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 224

    Yes sir, just out of curiosity did this guy say how wide the sidewalk was?
     
  11. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    5ft mostly 10ft down town.
     
  12. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,613

    Your going to have to plead your case to the city that your machine can do 10 times the work of the manual labor.
     
  13. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    This is why bidding by the hour sucks the south end of a northbound bull....
     
  14. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,613

    Its just T & M rates at that point, no incentive to do the job faster and make more payup
     
  15. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    Sounds like socialism...:laughing:
     
  16. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,574

    When clearing the sidewalks down town, were do you put the snow?
    Back in the street, or do you haul it away?
     
  17. Camden

    Camden PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,598

    I clear the sidewalks in my town. $95/block, $35 per house/lot. When Walmart doesn't clear their sidewalks I make just under $300 for about 15 minutes of work. It's pretty sweet.
     
  18. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    Yes I will plead my case to the city manager.
     
  19. FredG

    FredG 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,236

    It is socialism. The guy last year could not get the heavy stuff left by city plow trucks and blowed around the sidewalk into grass area. with no problems.
     
  20. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,613

    $300 for 15 minutes thats $1200. an hour, puts you right up in the same pay rate as me :laughing::laughing::laughing: