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chevy or dodge, gas or diesel

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by snowink, Dec 24, 2007.

  1. snowink

    snowink Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    I have a 1992 dodge cummins turbo diesel that I plow with and am looking to up grade to a newer 2005ish 2500 HD truck. Just wondering your thoughts or opinions on the 6.0 Chevy. or would you go with the duramax or dodge cummins. It will be used for plowing and pulling a trailer with bobcat.
     
  2. TLS

    TLS PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    For plowing, any engine will do, and the 6.0 is more than plenty.

    However, it would depend on how often, far & where you pull that bobcat and how heavy it is.

    The diesels really limit your legal plow carrying capacity.
     
  3. DBL

    DBL PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,310

    the 6.0 is awesome have it in out 03 chevy and i know its not a diesel but its a great gasser
     
  4. derekbroerse

    derekbroerse 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    I suspect once you've had a diesel like that, you'll feel disappointed in any gasser regardless how good....

    Take a Duramax out for a test drive... you'll love it.
     
  5. snowink

    snowink Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    I like the power in the duramax, more than enough, but the additional cost doesn't seem worth it. The other day I found the gas vs. diesel forum, it was pretty interesting. thanks for your input
     
  6. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,557

    If you can afford the diesel, go for it. You will never be happy with a gas truck after you have driven a turbo charged & intercooled diesel. The 6.0 is a great motor, and chevy surrounds it with an outstanding truck, it always seems that whenever you pass another truck and you are pulling 15,000lbs worth of equipment and your only 1/2 way into the throttle, it gives you a little piece of mind and satisfaction.

    As for plows, the Chevys with the IFS are not able to carry the weight that a solid front axle can. That is what the manufacters say. I and the people I plow with all carry the same plows as Dodges somtimes heaiver plows in the winter with no problems, then in the summer I have a much smoother ride, and much better handling truck. (and much faster) also with fuel economy, when pulling trailers and most of all pushing snow, I can run 24 hours on 1 tank of fuel where gas trucks are running to the fuel stop all day long filling up.

    As for the differnece in the Cummins and the Duramax. I have been a torn man for a long time. I have an undying love for the rattle of the might cummins (IMO one of the most indesructable motors ever made) But I have always been a Chevy man since my Dad's Dad's Dad's Da............... I gave this new Duramax a shot and let me tell you what... that Cummins has to watch it's tail now, because the D-Max is a nippin at it's hind end. (IMO)

    I think that you will be happy with either of the diesel trucks, both put toghter a great product, my opinions are favored twards a Chevy, that is strictley due to owning one and not seeing a common rail Cummins that has impressed me in beeing a well rounded truck. They are great 1 purpose trucks (IMO)
     
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2007
  7. snowink

    snowink Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    Phillbilly2
    thanks for your input. I am leaning more towards the duramax. we'll see this spring if I have enough cash to buy a good used one.
     
  8. sno commander

    sno commander PlowSite.com Addict
    from ct
    Messages: 1,061

    i don't think you can go wrong with a d-max or a 3rd gen cummins. Dodge has semmed to work out all there issues that the 2nd gen trucks had. Youll love the power of the diesel, either way good luck:drinkup:
     
  9. chev2500plow

    chev2500plow Member
    Messages: 40

    I like my 6.0 2500hd so far, but then again i never had a duramax or a cummins.
     
  10. Quality SR

    Quality SR PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,828

    Two words.... CHEVY and DIESEL. I am Very happy with mine
     
  11. pyro29

    pyro29 Member
    Messages: 38

    Those two words never used to go together with a smile, not until the 6.6
     
  12. AiRhed

    AiRhed Senior Member
    Messages: 401

    Oh Come on now. That 6.5 Liter is great for plowing. All Diesels from the 90's have their quirks. If you make a list of common problems for the 6.5L Chevy Diesel and the 5.9L Cummins. The lists are about the same length. Although, I still haven't seen a 6.5L do 400K miles without a rebuild.

    I am a happy owner of a second generation Cummins Diesel. But I have always been a Chevy man as my dad, his dad was. If I could afford one I'd buy a Duramax tonight. Chevy's handle like a friggen car, and their tight turning radius helps when plowing tight lots/drives.
     
  13. lawn king

    lawn king PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    It was a long road for GM getting to the duramax. The 2008 is a $7112.00 option. I think it was worth it, however, the gm gas engines are awesome. I have a 5.3 in my tahoe its a quiet powerhouse!
     
  14. FLASHMAN

    FLASHMAN Member
    Messages: 78

    well, considering the fact that you're already using a Diesel, I'd stick with Diesel... The Duramax is a great motor, and as long as you don't need a crew cab, you can get the plow prep package... Although the 6.0 gasser is an adequate motor, I don't think you'd be satisfied considering the fact that you've been running a Cummings.... just my 2 cents
     
  15. JohnnyU

    JohnnyU 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,040

    Dodge Cummins. I don't think you'll be happy with the Duramax. You'll constantly compare it to the old Cummins.

    Honestly, I wouldn't do anything with the old truck. That one will be more reliable than most of the newer trucks running around today.....
     
  16. joeco129

    joeco129 Senior Member
    Messages: 105



    FORD 6.0 Diesel! IMO...
     
  17. derekbroerse

    derekbroerse 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    Not sure what you mean here, the Duramax absolutely blows away (performance-wise)the old 12 valve Cummins he has.... in stock form it blew away the chipped 24 valve in my buddy's '98 Ram too... (it was his new 04 Duramax) Not sure what the 2000+ Cummins is like.


    You're kidding, right? The engine even International Harvester wants to pretend they never built? LOL
     
  18. NBI Lawn

    NBI Lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,797

    I didnt read all the replys but IMO the Duramaxs suck for plowing. It isnt the engine that is bad its the transmission. They are geared so low that they only do like 9mph in reverse. My brothers company runs an 06' and an 07' Duramax and i dont like them one bit for plowing, they sit really low too :(.
    The 6.0's are nice for plowing but are a little anemic when pulling. Fuel mileage isnt that great either. But I think on average you will pay ~$5000 more for the diesel option in any of the big three trucks. Diesel is ~$.60 more per gallon than regular so if you dont pull all the time a Reg. cab long bed 3500 chev with the 6.0 would be the king dingaling for plowing.
    The Dodge I really like but the new 6 speeds have yet to prove themselves :confused:.

    my .02
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2008
  19. NBI Lawn

    NBI Lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,797

    The 06' Duramax will pull on my 06' Ram CTD in stock form. With my Edge on level one it walks from the Duramax easily. We both have the Edge Juice Attitudes in our trucks but have yet to race with them both turned up.

    As far as reliability goes the only 12 valve is in a class of its own. They were never fast but they were reliable work horses. Compare the Chev, Ford, Dodge diesels from 1990. Which ones are still on the road for the most part? See my point
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2008
  20. derekbroerse

    derekbroerse 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    Well truth is drag racing isn't going to prove anything anyways, we're talking work trucks here...

    Probably couldn't go wrong with either. Pick a brand you like, pick a color, and go buy it! LOL

    wesport

    As for the reliability, the Cummins is a heavier built engine to begin with and wasn't designed for pickup trucks. They do make for a long-lasting package. Too bad the Dodge truck they came in rots away just as quickly as the other brands. Theres just as many, if not more (probably because they sold more) Chevy 6.2's and Ford IHI 6.9/7.3 non turbo trucks out there still, in fact, I own a '90 GMC with a 6.2L in it and the truck has 412000kms on it, though I have no idea if its original or not or if it was changed, when. Given the choice, if I was building an older project truck, the Cummins would be my first choice, but the problem is they are awfully expensive to buy, even in a totally rotted out truck. You could buy a solid running 6.2/6.5 and a brand new Gale Banks turbo kit for it and have the same performance as the old school 12 valver...

    .... but this is getting way off topic. He wants a newer truck.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2008