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Chevy 3500 Front End

Discussion in 'Chevy Trucks' started by JohnnyRoyale, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    Does anyone have any experience solving the front end sag issue on 07 3500 Crew Cab Long Box Dually's with 9.5 Western V? Plow tips are 2 inches off ground and impossible to drive in V position without scraping. I know theres many threads on this topic with other trucks and plow models, but honestly have spent hours searching for this particular truck/plow combo. Timbrens? Air Lift? Ride Right? Fire away!

    And.. am I going to have this problem again tonite when I get my Ford Ext Cab Dually Long Box back from the dealer?

    Damn Chevy's!
     
  2. Kevin Kendrick

    Kevin Kendrick Senior Member
    Messages: 397

    The Chevy's just dont handle a plow like a Ford or a Dodge (height wise that is). The front ends are just naturally lower and we have problems all the time trying to get the plow mounts at the right height on GM products. The bigger V plows enhance this problem.
     
  3. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    No Sh!T! I'm not a Chev fan, Ford has always been my choice, but my partner is kinda stubborn and loves his Chevy's-so he's the only one that drives one. We already turned up the front end, and not much better. I'm not crazy about a lift kit, but air assisted shocks have worked for other trucks in the past (on rear ends) and wonder if I should do the same.
     
  4. Kevin Kendrick

    Kevin Kendrick Senior Member
    Messages: 397

    Be careful with the lift kit. We put a plow on a Chevy truck and then the customer took the truck to have a lift kit put on it. When they put the lift kit on, they removed the rear supports for the undercarriage. Then, he brought the truck back down to us to reinstall the rear supports and lower the undercarriage and what we found was that the lift kit impedes the ability to put a snow plow on it. They guy spent thousands of dollars to lift his truck and now he is without a plow truck.
     
  5. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    What about truxx kits? Lifts 3" in front and 1" in rear? www.truxx.com
     
  6. Kevin Kendrick

    Kevin Kendrick Senior Member
    Messages: 397

    Check with the people that install the lift kit...I am not familiar with lift kits, only the plows.
     
  7. Newdude

    Newdude Senior Member
    Messages: 878

    I say a front end leveling kit from cognito, a set of timbrens and if you find it necessary a t-bar cranking. And no, your Ford should not have the same problems.
     
  8. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    How much did you turn it?
     
  9. brad96z28

    brad96z28 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,526

    What engine does it have?
     
  10. dsc

    dsc Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    Determine how much the front end sags when the plow is lifted off the ground. If 3 or 4" I'd try the ride rite air bag/shock combination. I believe the riderite product supports around 1500#. I'd imagine that could shore things up. Lift kits are not engineered for snowplowing. I've tried timbrens but wasn't really impressed. You can also gain some ground clearance up front by obviously increasing tire size. A good amount of balast weight will also help pull the nose of the truck up. Good luck.
     
  11. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    Just put Timbrens in and let the wings ride a bit forward and forget about it.
     
  12. Farm Boss

    Farm Boss Senior Member
    Messages: 183

    Timbrens. Don't crank too much on the torsion bars, don't want to set the truck out of alignment.
     
  13. bucket

    bucket Junior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 22

    hijacking thread here....kevin...i'm guessing your with american equipment. you guys installed a 9' super duty on my 01 350 crew dually 2wd. while it plows great the mount is so low that we scrape it all summer. do you guys recomend timbrens or springs to give a slight lift to the front?
     
  14. Kevin Kendrick

    Kevin Kendrick Senior Member
    Messages: 397

    You are correct. Hmmm...a 2wd with a 9' plow? The Timbrens arent really going to help with the clearance problem and the springs wont help either. You could cut off the bottom of the bracket but if you are hitting the center piece, you are SOL. Plows just aren't meant to go on 2wd trucks even though we do it all the time.
     
  15. mcwlandscaping

    mcwlandscaping 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,557

    I'm swapping out the torsion bars on my truck to really combat the sag issue :) yea it's going to ride like a dump truck but it'll sure handle my plow like a champ!! :)
     
  16. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    6.6 Duramax
     
  17. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    I didnt-mechanic did. I dont know.
     
  18. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    Ballast, ballast, ballast and some Timbrens along with possibly additional T-bar adjustments. Not uncommon to put 4 turns in them for starters.
     
  19. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    Thanks-I'll try the ballast idea today.
     
  20. JPMAKO

    JPMAKO Senior Member
    Messages: 660

    My Pick-up got the T-bars cranked up a little and a set of timbrens.
    Dump truck got three turns of the T-Bars no timbrens added and it is carrying a 9' HD Fisher which is a heavy plow. I don't notice much sag in the front end but I always have about 800- 1000 lbs of salt in the back. Both trucks are Diesel by the way.

    Jason