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Cant get my plow off the truck HELP

Discussion in 'Truck & Equipment Repair' started by Tino578, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    And No this is not my first time! Heres a dumb question I can't get my plow off my truck. Well first of all I couldn't get it on the whole minute mount theory took 90 minutes instead just to get it on. Before that I went and got a yard of sand/salt mix. Today I tried to take it off still with the load on it and It won't come off. Any reason why? The load shouldn't't matter should it? I don't think I bent the frame at all. Anybody else have this problem? I have a 2003 Chevy 2500HD Extended cab with a Salt Dogg 2 Yd Polly spreader and a Fisher MM2. Thanks for the help.
     
  2. chcav1218

    chcav1218 Senior Member
    Messages: 954

    are u just having trouble getting the pins to slide out? I usually just use a big pry bar.
     
  3. coldcoffee

    coldcoffee Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    Same as Chris said...also try putting some wood blocks under the blade, to minimize some pitch on the plow which may be causing it to bind.
     
  4. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Cant get my plow off my truck

    I'll give it a shot tomorrow. Thats for the tips. Also do you think it could be because of the load in the back? The Back is saging a little bit causing maybe a bad angle?
     
  5. coldcoffee

    coldcoffee Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    Probably, just for shi_ s & giggles...go measure your plow carriage to the ground full and again when empty...that will be the difference...that's why I think raising the height w/ wood blocks should help because the front ends getting jacked up. Just my 2 cents...
     
  6. BSDeality

    BSDeality Senior Member
    Messages: 736

    Did you compress the lift cylinder before you tried to dismount the plow? if not its a PITA to get it off.
     
  7. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Cant get my plow off my truck

    Cold I have been thinking about what you said about the wood But im thinking it wouldn't matter because the plow and the plow frame are two different pieces so even if I put wood under the blade it would lift the plow only and not the plow frame right? The answer to the other reply is YES the fish stick controller automatically drops the piston down all the way to the "float" position . Thats a good point tho I think everybody at least once has left the piston up and stared at it for a while wondering why the plow wont come off!!!
     
  8. BSDeality

    BSDeality Senior Member
    Messages: 736

    when I put my MM1 plows down in float it doesn't compress the cylinder all the way, it drops the plow yes, but not all the way. You have to physically push the cylinder down and put slack in the chain. Is there slack in the chain?
     
  9. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Yes its down all the way I have a MM2 and the fish stick controller automatically does that for you
     
  10. BSDeality

    BSDeality Senior Member
    Messages: 736

    alright then. you should be able to pull the pins after the jackstand is down. you'll have to push the headgear up while you're doing this.
     
  11. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    I did that with the foot on the ground locked into place the headgear wont budge at all I have taken this plow off my truck 1,965 times before and the only thing I can think of is that there is a load in the back causing the front of the truck to rise up wedging the headgear to the truck frame. Its pretty embarrising when your sweating you butt of trying to take your plow off infront of your neighbors in a T-Shirt and gloves for the last hour in 15 degree weather. LOL
     
  12. coldcoffee

    coldcoffee Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    Tino, I'm not all that familiar w/ Fisher plows, but if I'm understanding your problem right, it sounds like what I go through w/ my boss because my truck sits a bit high...I use a floor jack under the plow to compensate...and it goes right on. I've had the same prob before w/ other plows when I was hooking up on a slope or uneven pavement. Sounds like BS knows the system though...I'd follow his lead.
     
  13. BSDeality

    BSDeality Senior Member
    Messages: 736

    if it still won't budge by hand I would try using a breaker bar as a pry bar, I'm not familiar with the MM2 but the MM1s have a good deal of 'slop' to them and you can wiggle/shake them pretty good. If it doesn't move at all I'd check with a dealer.
     
  14. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    I give it a shot tomorrow morning again and let you know how I make out but usually I get the slop as well but not this time with the loaded sander in the back But ill try your tip cold with the wood trick.

    Thanks everybody
     
  15. ticki2

    ticki2 Senior Member
    from NH
    Messages: 175

    If there is no slack in the lift chains it won't come off , or go on . Check the small spring that pulls the lift cylinder down , it may have come off or broke. If there is slack in the chains the head gear should move front to back. Made me feel loke a dumb ass more than once.
     
  16. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Ill run out and check the spring now. I have never had this problem before something is telling me that its the load that is causing it. BRB
     
  17. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    Alright I think the Wood Idea that cold told me about might just work. The piston is all the way down but the chain is really really really tight still like its almost too short all of a sudden so If I put wood under the blade it will then give some chain slack which will result in some headgear movement. So I should probably get a chain with a few more links in it so I have that little extra slack with or without the load. Does anybody dissagree? Thanks
     
  18. coldcoffee

    coldcoffee Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    Sounds like you might have it figured out...let us know if that works...good luck !
     
  19. rbergevine

    rbergevine Member
    Messages: 62

    yes, all the above, esp chain slack for headgear movement. I havea MM1 on a Chevy 1500 and I keep a small 3-lb hammer in the truck and tap out the pins as they are always tight when removing - truck wants to raise more causing binding action. The 3lb makes it a cinch. I also keep a floor jack handy and use it in a variety of ways. You just learn the tricks as you go. I put it on and off with one-arm Saturday 3 days after serious rotator cuff surgery...its technique. But mostall of us have been in that moment of fighting it. You just have to laugh it off. Merry Christmas
     
  20. Tino578

    Tino578 Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    The only people who were "Laughing it off" was my nice warm neighbors watching from there picture window saying" Anthony's at it again"! LOL Thanks for all the help I knew I could find it here. One last question tho If I add a longer chain will that decrease the plow lift height?