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Buy Brand New or Used Truck?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by The Green Team, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. The Green Team

    The Green Team Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    Well Guys, im in the position to get a different truck. Well im kind of forced to so i was wondering how all u felt on this subject. it will be for plowing in the winter and landscaping in the summer

    Buy a brand spanking new plain jane work truck and put a plow on and wat not

    Or buy a used truck not spend as much

    any imput would be nice, thank you
  2. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 27,864

    Depending on what your credit rating is, with 0% financing they have on 3/4 tons now, it's kinda foolish to not buy new, IMO.
  3. OneBadDodge06

    OneBadDodge06 Senior Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 731

    To me it makes more sense to just buy new. With all of the incentives they have going and you get a full warranty, you pay just a little more. But with that you also know what's been done to the truck and how hard its been ran. Putting a plow on will not void a warranty, but abuse do to a plow will cause you to pay the mechanic payup. I bought my 2004 for 28K but that was with a 5 year extended warranty and all the bells and whistles. My 2002 I got for 23K with 30K miles. This is just my opinion. :waving:
  4. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    GREEN.....Its a tough call.
    I get the GM employee/retiree discount
    so I can buy a new shiny rig for a very reasonable price. Then
    work it hard plowing, towing and dump it after 3 winters for darn
    close to what I paid for it before the warranty expires..........

    As far as late model used...Around my parts a late model NBS GM
    3/4 ton x-cab gasser fetches BIG $$$$. Diesels even more !

    Not to mention NO warranty. A transmission or transfer case is
    quite the spendy item nowadaze..$2000 plus !!!!!
    Fixing one of those can ruin your whole season $$$ wise !

    If your interested in a new GM another plowhead around here can
    hook ya up with the "GM in the driveway" program for darn near
    GM employee price. Let me know/////////////geo............ :drinkup:

    BTW: He works in the Ft. Wayne GM truck plant too !
    Prob. a neighbor of yours.....He will chime in.............
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2005
  5. flykelley

    flykelley 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,124

    George is correct with the price of used trucks and the deals on new trucks you should go with a new one. My choice would be a 3/4 HD Chevy or GMC. Maybe a SRW 3500 Chevy, I hear there are some deals on those truck's. As George said I'm the one plowhead who works for GM at the Truck Assy in Pontiac MI. I can get you supplier pricing on a new GM car or truck. It's not as good as my pricing but it should save you 1-2 grand extra. If you have any interest send me a PM with the following info
    1- Buyers name
    2-Buyers date of birth
    3-buyers last four numbers of your social security number (never give your full number)
    4-valid email address for GM to send you a authorizing number to give to dealer.

    Good Luck Mike
  6. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    THANKS MIKE !!!!! I knew you could help!

    GREEN........... Don't forget.........If you get that GM deal you will
    also NOT pay advertising fees (approx. $500), DOC fees....$40
    in NY........Up to $500 in some ripoff states.

    That deal is PAINLESS and NO bsing over price. Its in black and
    white. Get on GM buypower and look for your truck !
    Mike or I can tell ya the deal price beforehand ! Then make up
    you mind new or used?
    All we need is the dealer ,zipcode, and VIN#

    Heck, you could even buy a new GM 1/2 ton with plow prep. and
    tow pkgs.for less than $20k out the door.
    Remember only GM and Ford offer factory plow prep. in 1/2 tons.
    If you buy a truck without it and it breaks your outta luck warranty

    Even GMPP has a $250 upcharge on its extended warranty programs
    if you snowplow!............geo :drinkup:
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2005
  7. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    GREEN.........Bored today and playing with GM buypower.

    05 GMC reg. cab long box, 4wd, 4.8 v-8 gasser, auto, a/c, CD,
    WITH the WORK goodies G-80, HD susp., trailer tow pkg., snow
    plow prep. pkg., skid plates....yada, yada..........Roll up windows

    $22,100 ($25,500 msrp) minus $3500 rebate..........and if you
    qualify: minus GM card $$$, GM loyalty rebate ($1000?), Military,
    College grad.

    Plus you won't pay adv. fees or DOC fees..........
    just sales tax and state inspection.................

    Heck, minus your trade if ya got one. (But most dealers will
    lowball it anyhoo!)................. :drinkup:

    Shiny brand NEW 05 work ready rig for less than $20k !!!!!!

    A 3/4 ton x-cab add about $5000
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2005
  8. The Green Team

    The Green Team Junior Member
    Messages: 5

    thanks for the info guys. i think im leaning towards a plain jane 05 2500HD with plow package etc. hopefully i can come away with the deal under 30k if you can tell me why you prefer GMs over the Fords, itd be greatly appreciated :)
  9. flykelley

    flykelley 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,124

    Green I really love the way they ride. Smooth and plenty of power, I pulled a 30 ft travel trailer around lower Michigan last summer with my truck plenty of power to run 70-75 MPH. Plus I work for Gm building trucks :salute:

    Good Luck Mike
  10. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    GREEN............Ya want a 2500 huh? Cool can work ya a price on a
    GM 2500.........
    I heavy plowed and towed with LOTS of GM 1/2 tons with no
    But I thought ya needed a low priced work rig WITH the work
    goodies !

    Heck, Ford just started offering factory plow prep in their NBS
    1/2 ton trucks.
    Can't help with the price on a Ford tho that will cost MORE $$$$
    than a GM with "the deal" unless ya know somebody that can get
    ya the X or Y Ford deal.....................

    Me and Fly are just more partial to GM trucks than others. We
    WORK them hard and put them away wet daily ! But so do other
    fellas with different brands here.

    I just guess its personal preference thats all...............Keep us posted ! :drinkup:
  11. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    GREEN............WIDE AWAKE at 5 am looking for snow ! :cry:
    FUN habits are hard to break !

    Did the GM deal for a 05 Chevy 2500hd 6.0 v-8 reg cab long box
    base with hd susp. and cooling, tow pkg., snow plow prep., AC,
    auto trans., NO CD, roll up windows, base interior.................
    $30280 msrp......$25,760 deal price minus
    $4500 REBATE and the others IF you qualify.

    NOW price out a Ford.......05 2500 sd WEAK 5.4 v-8 reg. cab long
    box base, hd susp, trailer hitch, plow prep., a/c, auto trans........
    No CD, roll up windows, base interior............................
    Plus NO heated power mirrors or heated rear window, skid plates,
    larger 6.0 engine which are standard or included on the GMs plus a
    few other goodies too.
    $29,355 msrp..............$3000 rebate
    geo :drinkup:
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2005
  12. Bad Luck

    Bad Luck Senior Member
    Messages: 741

    MIke - What's up man? How was your season? My old mans plant rolled the last truck off the line yesterday! It was a sad day in Jersey. :(
  13. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    BAD...............Hey....Do you have kin folk that work for GM?
    I did....But they were all the right age and seniority and got the
    "golden parachute" buy out when the Syracuse plant locked the
    doors in the early 90's.

    I can guess it the Linden plant thats closing right ? I know the
    Ranger plant in NJ is due to close also..................The Baltimore
    GM van plant is gone soon too.................... :realmad:

    BTW: Some guys from GM-truck forums are gonna have a meet
    and greet May 14th in King of Prussia , Pa Hooters......Interested?
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2005
  14. flykelley

    flykelley 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,124

    I saw that on the new's. Yes it is a sad day when we have to close a plant, the bad thing is if you work for GM that is alway's a part of your life. :cry:

    I hope that everything work's out ow for your Dad and all of his coworker's. Tell your Dad for us that everyone here in Michigan at Local 594 have everyone in Linden in our thought's. On a better note my Season was Great, if I get anymore work I will have to sub some of it out. That's not a bad thing though I would sub out the plowing and keep all of the salting work.

    Regards Mike
  15. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    :gunsfiring: BAD.......Did your dad and other "old timers" with the
    right amount of working years and age bracket get the "golden
    parachute" buyout?

    It wasn't bad for my mom and uncles...They were 55 plus. Not to
    mention we all owned a few bar/rest./hotels each so they were
    ready to go !

    Felt sorry for a LOT of the folks there...........Some were able to
    transfer to other GM plants. But that sucked because they had
    to uproot their families and move to Tenn., Michigan, Ohio etc...

    It was worse for others.....They weren't old enough to retire or
    didn't have enough time in to transfer and got the shaft job !
    Plus some were too "old" for other work....................

    FUNNY.......The Import lovin' A-Holes over at the Edmunds
    forums are gloating about these plant closings and GMs woes !

    I have been busting their chops and got BANNED again !!!!!
    MOST of them don't even own a home and drive some hoopty
    junk and work at Wallyworld...They gloat when these big $$$
    jobs are lost in the USA or Canada............. :gunsfiring:
    :gunsfiring: :gunsfiring:
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2005
  16. sixspeed

    sixspeed Senior Member
    Messages: 306

    New or used plow truck

    Perhaps one of you GM fellows knows who at GM I could send a repair and service history to for our 2000 K3500 GMC and our 2003 K1500 Silverado. Two of the most problematic GM vehicles we have ever owned. Junk with a capital J. GM (and the others) needs to stop blaming you guys the employees - GM management caused their own problems. You guys build em right, it's the greedy management that takes the short cuts in engineering and parts design to save money.

    And imports have nothing at all to do with it either. The big 3 ought to learn from the imports because we taught them how to make them in the first place. There's a reason that people pay more for Jap vehicles and it's not because they like the japs. Nobody forces people to buy any vehicle, domestic or import.

    That said, buy new! Warranty is key and GM vehicles do keep getting better! With rebates and discounts, a K2500HD is an outstanding value for the money.
  17. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425


    SIX..............I had 2 problematic GM cars...a 87 Trans Am which never
    ran right and a 89 Vette both bought new. Both were POSs !!!!
    Thank god for NY lemon laws and I got a buy back on both !
    I fought HARD and didn't give up either !

    Wanna talk superior imports........My 2 toyota pickups gave me nothing
    but engine head gasket problems. But at the time yotas big 1yr/12k
    warranty was useless and NO lemon law recourse at the time !
    Bought S-10s after that...Then GM full sizers and never looked back !

    Nowadaze I think its the luck of the draw no matter what vehicle you
    buy. I see horror stories on other sites from just about ANY car from
    Kias to "superior" MB cars........................

    I know it SUCKS to lay out mega $$$$ and get a problematic vehicle !
    Been there and done that bro. !............I need a beer.........geo........ :drinkup:
  18. sixspeed

    sixspeed Senior Member
    Messages: 306

    New or used truck...

    I hear ya!!! Sad thing we went Ford no problems with our F250's ever. But maybe back to GM for next 2500 since they still make the nicest looking.... GMC K2500 best looking truck on the market hands down! And the LS1 is an ass kicker compared to the Ford 5.4.

    Just out of curiosity did you have Toyo 6 bangers??? We used to kid a 4-runner owning friend that our 454 Suburban got better mileage than his 3.0 4 runner.. :)

    IMHO I love my Tacomas, never a problem (Almost bought a ZR2 but I didn't want a 6...) but I'd NEVER buy any Toyota pickup (or an SUV) with their V6's. Junk from day one and they never got the head gasket problems worked out of them... And my brother's Corolla has had 3 major oil leaks in 5 years... Our stuff is getting better and theirs is getting sloppier! :(

    Get GM to bring the full size 2 door Blazer/Tahoe back out! Best small spaces full size plow vehicle ever.
  19. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    SIX..............Nah...they were 4 bangers............My 2 s-10s were
    also 4s. One was a 83 with the Isuzu (spl) motor and the 87 was
    a 2.5 Iron duke Pontiac motor both sticks.
    Great little trucks.................

    All bought mostly for big mpgs !!!!!!!! But didn't need to plow then ! :drinkup:

    A few fellas around here at PS plow with tacos and Fisher blades
    and LOVE them !!!!!!!!!!!..................geo :drinkup:
  20. PremierLand

    PremierLand PlowSite.com Addict
    from detroit
    Messages: 1,572

    Im in the same position. Once I sell my f150 im getting a brand new truck rather than used I think. I gotta quote of $25000 + tax for a 2500hd reg cab with a 8ft western. And then a quote of $22,205.38 for a 2500hd reg cab without a plow. Both plain jane work trucks, silverado 2500hd's only difference is one is without a plow and one is with a plow (i think). Im not sure which is the better deal, but they both seem reasonable.

    PS. anyone wanna run a vin on 1GCHK24U45E119301 (the one without the plow) to see what options it has, if any?
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2005