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Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Illini, Dec 24, 2007.

  1. Illini

    Illini Junior Member
    Messages: 11

  2. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    yep that sucks.

    So your going to your uncles on the 2nd. Hope its a good trip, make sure to share pic withus
  3. tman3007

    tman3007 Senior Member
    Messages: 147

    OOPS!!! :nono:
  4. Scottscape

    Scottscape Senior Member
    Messages: 662

    theres a church lot that I use to do and the town trucks would turn around and plow a lane where there turning around.. but whos gonna argue with that ... im not
  5. Illini

    Illini Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Ill try to, but I lost my digital camera.
  6. Illini

    Illini Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    so is this whole thing a little overeacting, or is the Town of Tonawandas complaints against the driver valid?

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228

    Very much is a valid complaint.

    I know I wouldn't mind having a truck and plow paid for and maintained by the city to go and earn money with.

    Heck you could low ball anybody out there and not worry about any overhead.
    He may have been salting lots as well.
  8. Little Jon

    Little Jon Senior Member
    from Buffalo
    Messages: 139

    Two points. One is if he was making $$ doing this with town prop, then thats a def no no. Also, what if he breaks something while doing that?? If he agrees to pay then fine but if the town has to foot the bill.
  9. Illini

    Illini Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    yeah ur right
  10. carcrz

    carcrz Senior Member
    Messages: 295

    I have no problem w/ that considering wear & tear on the parking lot from having heavy trucks driving on their property.
  11. Mudman78

    Mudman78 Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 103

    Don't forget, besides the truck, he's on the clock with the town for time and a half (or more) while he's charging the customers :realmad: .
  12. Illini

    Illini Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    it is a bit of a waste of taxpayer money, especially for a place like tonawanda that has so many finanicial problems
  13. nicksplowing

    nicksplowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,226

    how Many People From The City Council Get There Private Drives Done By The Same Truck ??????????? See It Here In The Big City All The Time Double Standard A$$es
  14. Little Jon

    Little Jon Senior Member
    from Buffalo
    Messages: 139

    Excellent point!!
  15. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,395

    I'd say they are underreacting. I would've fired his butt immediately.
  16. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    Theyde be better off looking into the City Manager or Comptrollers finances and his wifes and kids finances looking for that kickback he recieved for signing a certain salt purchase order, or equipment purchase order.

    Sure. Fire the little guy....whatever, but that three minutes a storm he spends plowing his friends lot is nothing compared to the thievery that goes on above him.
  17. MrBigStuff

    MrBigStuff Senior Member
    from Boston
    Messages: 140

    Big scandal here recently. They caught the manager and his son, both employed by the city, performing work by their business using city equipment and labor. Both fired and big investigation. Many of the laborers were punished as well since they should have known better and reported the abuse but didn't. The feds even got involved. In the end, a disgruntled employee blew the whistle.

    I don't buy that "why pick on the little guy" argument. Get the low hanging fruit first. Then shake the tree and see what else falls. I don't like my hard earned cash lining someone else pocket. They're always complaining about the city budget and how they need more tax $$$. Clean out the bad apples first and then we'll talk about your budget shortfall.
  18. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,395

    Sort of need some proof in order to start an investigation. Otherwise our justice system would be overloaded even more with all the corruption that occurs in gov't. Yes, it's there, when it's discovered, punish them all to the same extent, no matter what their position.

    3 minutes adds up. Last year, we caught a city plower sleeping 6 nights in a row in the same spot. Should we turn in his boss? Or the worthless bum that was wasting tax dollars and then ripping off contractors making them buy licenses to plow in their city and supporting this bum. Good reasons for privatization of as many services as possible.
  19. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    I agree with everything you said. Im just tired of this " If we hang enough little guys, eventually the kingpins will fall" attitude and tactic.

    Most of it's all for a good tv rating and a feel like we got em story more than anything else....some dood loses his job and nothing changes, and all the while the real thieves sit back and laugh.

  20. Snowpower

    Snowpower Senior Member
    Messages: 636

    Then the guy that lost his job goes out, gets a crappy plow for his truck that he's two payments behind on and lowballs that account you and I want.

    It never ends. lol