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bulk salt prices

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by P&J Lawncare, Oct 7, 2002.

  1. P&J Lawncare

    P&J Lawncare Member
    Messages: 57

    What is everybody paying for bulk salt this year.
     
  2. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    I was quoted $50/ton at the port.
     
  3. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    $55 a ton here. Was told I could get a "good discount" if I buy a bulk amount. Not sure what that means. Will be finding out more this week as salt and sand is on my punch list.
     
  4. SnoJob67

    SnoJob67 Senior Member
    Messages: 384

    $38/ton
     
  5. firedog

    firedog Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 59

    $34.50 a ton
     
  6. JD PLOWER

    JD PLOWER PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 751

    50.00 per ton, including trucking (25 ton minimum).
     
  7. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    $49 a ton, including trucking. Still waiting on the price if we pick it up.

    Also, still waiting on pricing from With A Grain Of Salt. Last year, WGS gave us a locked in price of $38 a ton, picked up at the port. Delivered was $43 - $47 a ton.

    ~Chuck
     
  8. OBRYANMAINT

    OBRYANMAINT PlowSite.com Veteran
    from ohio
    Messages: 534

    41.50 /delivered
     
  9. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    $42.00 per ton delivered. I'll have to call for pick-up price.
     
  10. SLC1

    SLC1 Senior Member
    Messages: 242

    We are paying $46.00 per ton picked up. The prices stayed the same from last year.
     
  11. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    SLC1

    Who is your supplier?
     
  12. karl klein

    karl klein Senior Member
    Messages: 557

    $55.00 a ton loaded in the spreader
     
  13. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    I guess I am slacking, I havent gotten any quotes for my 20 tons that I will need this winter, P.J., where are you getting yours from, Kuhlman, Cargil or Andersons?
     
  14. landman

    landman Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 185

    20 ton? that's like not even a full load. We usually use 35 ton per storm. Maybe you meant 20 loads?
     
  15. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    I am glad that you are the one applying 35 tons per snow.


    Last year we got a whole 8" and used 1 ton out of 5 that we had at the shop... and yes I meant 20 tons.



    ~Nate~
     
  16. SnoJob67

    SnoJob67 Senior Member
    Messages: 384

    Last year was our second year doing snow. We put out almost 20 tons during a heavy icing event last season, but closer to 12 tons was our norm.

    We are most likely to grow by 50% this season, so those numbers will increase by about 50%.

    For those who have yet to figure it out, salt is where all the money is at. If you are only plowing, you are missing out on the majority of your potential income.
     
  17. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    "For those who have yet to figure it out, salt is where all the money is at. If you are only plowing, you are missing out on the majority of your potential income."

    Exactly. You will typically plow once suring a storm, but salt twice.

    Do the math. payup payup payup

    ~Chuck
     
  18. Ohiosnow

    Ohiosnow Senior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 415

    Chuck, I've got to disagree not all the money

    I think it makes a big difference as what your contracts say, all mine are 2" start plow & every 2" after. A 6.5" snow means I plow 3 times example 1 lot I do is $750.00 every 2" if I salt it's only $450.00 & if I salt the whole lot the snow might not stick & only get to plow twice. ;) So I plow 3 times =$2250.00 & salt the entrance, exits & drives twice $250.00 & salt entire lot 1 time for $450.00. :D Total is $2950.00 now that's making the most $$$$$ out of a snow. If I plow & salt twice it's only worth $2400.00. I understand each & every place is different so plow triggers & contracts are different as to location state to state.

    Now if it's only a 1.5" snow I do salt so in that regard I make $450.00 so if you don't have a salt spreader you're not making easy money for the taking ;) .
     
  19. TurfPlus

    TurfPlus Senior Member
    Messages: 179

    I have to agree with Chuck. You have to look at your net profit not gross. Plowing will gross more but salting is more profitable.

    John
     
  20. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    Naturally it will vary from company to company too. It is less overhead to send out your crews to salt than to plow. The profit margin is higher salting than plowing.

    You might need 5 drivers to plow your route(s), but only 2 to just salt them.

    I was actually quoting SnoJob, but also agreeing with him :)

    If a 3" - 4" storm is forecasted, we pre salt the entire lot. Then plow at the 2" trigger. Then salt again. Then plow the remainder, followed by another salting. All of these saltings are aimed at preventing the bond from forming, and preventing hardpack. We charge "per application" for salt. It might be a light application, or a heavy one, it is at our descretion. We typically apply light, unless conditions (temps) call for a heavy one.

    The main gist is that salting is a profit center that many plowers miss out on. That we all agree on.

    ~Chuck