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building plow wings

Discussion in 'Equipment, Tools & Vehicle Pictures' started by pashtrd, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. pashtrd

    pashtrd Member
    Messages: 45

    Well i decided to build a set of wings for my conventional Western plow. I have them almost complete. My question is: What is the purpose of using rubber for a scraping edge?
    Why not use steel?
    I am at the point where i can go either way. I have the rubber already, but was thinking a steel scraping blade would work better. Obviously being an older conventional my entire blade trips, so if i hit something with the wing, the blade will trip anyways. I figure i could laser cut a pc of 3/8" steel for a blade with some adjustment slots in it, so the blades sit flush with the main scraping blade, that way i can also adjust when necessary, if i am not using the wings that much, i can adjust for the wear of the main blade.
    So what do you think?
    Thanks
    Matt
     
  2. mulcahy mowing

    mulcahy mowing Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    You could go steel IMO it would be better. Rubber is just more forgiving on curbs/grass and is cheaper thats all.
     
  3. cjcocn

    cjcocn Member
    Messages: 78

    Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but .....

    I think the use of rubber is so that the rubber will bend when the blade trips forward, especially on those wings that are angled forward a bit to create more of a scoop (as opposed to wings that are in line with the plow and are installed solely just to widen the plow without creating the scoop effect).

    I believe that the purpose behind that is to make it easier on the hydraulics?
     
  4. ABES

    ABES PlowSite.com Addict
    from MN
    Messages: 1,322

    Thats what i thought also.
     
  5. deckboys

    deckboys Senior Member
    Messages: 198

    shot in the dark but on the wings if im thinking correctly they use rubber so that if it catches a curb and grabs the rubber will flex, if you use steel and catch a curb, or man hole..ect, it will increase the odds of ripping the wing off. yes it will have some affect on to the trip springs but will take more toll on the wings... Also i don't think that regular steel would be the best choice since it will wear faster then the cutting edge...


    that is what i have noticed looking at wings....
     
  6. pashtrd

    pashtrd Member
    Messages: 45

    If i go with steel, i would be using a grade 50 steel. Plenty hard. Besides i figure the wings can only wear as fast as the blade, assuming plowing semi level ground. The rubber i have is 1 1/2" thick, I dont think that will have very much give to it. What thickness rubber is generally used on wings? BTW for me steel is much cheaper than rubber. I work at a large fab shop. We have multiple lasers, burn tables, brakes etc. Alltogether so far i have $8.00 into my wings, all cut out of scrap material at $0.15 /lb
    Thanks
    Matt
     
  7. MileHigh

    MileHigh PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,827

    I think if you use steel on pro wings with a blade trip plow, it won't trip properly cause of the scoop angle that the wings give. I know when I plow the rubber gets hard as a rock when it's cold..but defenitely more forgiving than steel. The steel would hold up much longer but I think could damage your plow if its a blade trip. JMO
     
  8. Kevin Kendrick

    Kevin Kendrick Senior Member
    Messages: 397

    Both CJCOCN & DECKBOYS are correct. Go with the rubber unless you are just extending the plow to make it longer with no inset on the wings.
     
  9. pashtrd

    pashtrd Member
    Messages: 45

    sounds good, rubber it will be.
    Thanks alot for the help.
    Matt
     
  10. nbenallo33

    nbenallo33 Senior Member
    Messages: 826

    question:
    why wouldnt you just use a pro wing?
     
  11. HinikerPrototyp

    HinikerPrototyp Member
    Messages: 88

    Rolls his eyes
     
  12. nbenallo33

    nbenallo33 Senior Member
    Messages: 826

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  13. pashtrd

    pashtrd Member
    Messages: 45

    buy me a set and i will.
    Why should i spend $200 on something when i can make it for $10?
    Matt
     
  14. nbenallo33

    nbenallo33 Senior Member
    Messages: 826

    oh i see i guess if your only spending $10....
    i have seen people just use old tractor tires....
    i figured that you were building a set of wings out of steel that would cost money :dizzy:
     
  15. HinikerPrototyp

    HinikerPrototyp Member
    Messages: 88

    if people would only read the posts before speaking
     
  16. cameo89

    cameo89 Senior Member
    Messages: 669

    pro wings

    If you can make wings for $10.00 what would you charge to build a set(s) for plowsite members?
    These photos might help you out on your design



    Yon

    wings1.jpg

    wings2.jpg
     
  17. pashtrd

    pashtrd Member
    Messages: 45

    They are made out of steel.
    Did you read any of my other posts?
    The main part is 14 ga steel, and the reinforcements are made from 1/4" plate. I will post some pics when i get them powdercoated at work later this week. like i said they are made out of scrap steel from work and at $.015 a lb it doesn't cost that much. Even if I had to pay full price, that still only comes in at $0.45 a lb.


    As far as making more sets, i would need to refine my design, right now it is kind of crude. It is set up like pro wings, coming off the plow at approx a 30 degree angle. I also need to try them out. Hopefully we will get some snow friday like they are predicting.
    Matt
     
  18. nbenallo33

    nbenallo33 Senior Member
    Messages: 826

    oh im sorry the only thing that i saw in the post was about what kind of edge to use and it was made from steel i know powder coating is expensive.. i guess i just know from experience since we patented wings for snoway plows
    ...but i guess when you have a hiniker you know it all hahaha....
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2008
  19. pashtrd

    pashtrd Member
    Messages: 45

    Thanks for the photos.
    I am planning on refining my design and building another set in a week or 2. Just wish i had some clear pics like that when i started. Mine are probably overkill :)
    Matt
     
  20. HinikerPrototyp

    HinikerPrototyp Member
    Messages: 88

    Stick with me kid ill take ya places