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BS or not about plowing

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by shelbymustang16, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. shelbymustang16

    shelbymustang16 Junior Member
    from Pa
    Messages: 2

    I having a buddy who owns a landscaping business. During the winter he plows. He says he has contracts with a couple commercial accounts to plow. He states he has contracts of up 60,000 to plow for the season. Is this accurate, i dont plow but going to start next year. I figured if he made that much wouldnt everyone be plowing to make 60000 in 3 months?
     
  2. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
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  3. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,412

    I would think so.

    After all... ain't nothing to it anyway. :jester:
     
  4. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    60,000 for a seasonal? Is he plowing an entire town?
     
  5. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    ;) Yes, you are right, the snow business is easy and inexpensive:D
     
  6. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
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    My apologies for being a smart arse. I have one seasonal account ( insurance company ) that I charge over $100k for the seasonpayup
     
  7. L.I.Mike

    L.I.Mike Senior Member
    Messages: 364

    I would think your friend is pulling your chain a lot. Browse this site for the reality of plowing.
     
  8. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,046

    What does he have for equipment? That will give you a good idea of what he's making. It's not very hard to get a seasonal around here for 60k but that's for 5 months and we use a pile of salt.
     
  9. DaySpring Services

    DaySpring Services PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,065

    My contracts are Nov. through March. My two largest contracts are $9k and.$7k. Depending on how big his company is it may be possible. Next season I'm bidding on a lowes around $60k
     
  10. AndyTblc

    AndyTblc Senior Member
    Messages: 681

    I worked for a company that mowed the lawn at a mall, and plowed the snow durring the winter. I only worked for them for 3 weeks, but I seen the bid he was sending out to the mall for snow plowing, and it was for $328,000, and he won the bid to plow
     
  11. carl b

    carl b PlowSite.com Addict
    from Ohio
    Messages: 1,330

    he does it all by him self :laughing:.

    yes it may be true . after equipment and labor he may make ??? . not to bad for 3 months of no sleep . after all its easy to plow and salt with no slip & falls .
     
  12. Evanbrendel

    Evanbrendel Senior Member
    Messages: 181

    kinda related do you get payed before or after the season on a seasonal? i am a sub so i dont know that much about it.
     
  13. Grn Mtn

    Grn Mtn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,644

    I had a friend bid a similar type of scenario, all he saw was the total bid price and kept talking about all that money.....

    quickly looking over the bid I said IF you don't have any breakdowns and its a light winter, you MIGHT break-even..... thankfully he didn't get the bid.

    yes there are tons high dollar jobs out there OP, but it costs big money to afford those jobs, and those that are doing it have been in the biz for 30 years.
     
  14. Pennings Garden

    Pennings Garden Senior Member
    from VA
    Messages: 242

    Yes, it is very well possible for him to have a 60k contract.

    But depending on the equipment you own and your over head, you might be making more money plowing driveways as he is on his "high dollar" contract.

    Start plowing small lots and driveways for a couple of years, charge by the push. This way you get to know your true costs.

    I have been plowing for 8 years and I know there are properties that are to big for me to handle (heck, allot of them are), I can get the equipment to handle any account in the country in a couple of days, with good credit and a rental company you can get anything you need..., that does not mean you can get the job done right...

    We plow residential drives, private roads, small commercial and medium shopping malls, I have my hands full and am not comfortable taking on bigger, not right now, may next year, maybe not..., Oh and when you go bigger you better be prepared to live, eat and sleep snow, because it will be everyday (and night) for 5 months... My daughter had her 1 year birthday cake without me there last year, that still bothers me today...

    The moral of my reply; Big jumps are deep falls. Slow and steady wins the race.
    60K might sound great, that does not mean that it is...
     
  15. clark lawn

    clark lawn PlowSite.com Addict
    from NE ohio
    Messages: 1,233

    ya he might have got the bid for 60,000 but his expenses this winter could very well be 59,900. now he made a whole 100 bucks for 3 months work.
     
  16. procut1

    procut1 Senior Member
    Messages: 380

    A midsized condo complex would be that price. Its not a rare thing.
     
  17. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    I'm not familiar with seasonal types of contracts. I had no idea 60k could be one account.
     
  18. TSherman

    TSherman Member
    Messages: 74

    If you do it right you can make $20,000 on a $60,000 contract with a little luck. Add in equipment failures, and things that you need to pay for that come up and you can lose money on it. Hell, if your investing just the $5000 for the plow you are taking a risk! Go slow and easy, work up to it and take a chance when you get an idea of what you are doing and how long it takes you to do it!
     
  19. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,508

    Funny how some people see that somebody's accepted $60,000 bid means they made $60,000.:D The important number is what did they make after costs to do the work.
     
  20. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    Thats how my wife thinks it works:dizzy::laughing: