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Broken Front Axles 2006 Dodge RAm 3500

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by DPoolman, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. DPoolman

    DPoolman Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    Did anybody experienced the same problem as i just had? 1 broken front axle on 1 side and the other side bent out of wack. Both need replacement . I have been plowing with a 99 chev 3/4 ton for 8 years and my 2006 Ford F-350 for 2 years problems free. The Dodge has only 48000km and boom front end gone after only plowing 70hrs with a 8ft SS Fisher. My technique and my commercial lot havent changed so i am tempted to blame the vehicle. Need feedback please.

    tymusic:realmad:
     
  2. TEX

    TEX Senior Member
    Messages: 606

    wow...........no i havent heard of that at all. i would think it would take a lot to break an axle
     
  3. DPoolman

    DPoolman Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    And what suck big fat Wazoo is also the fact that being single rear wheel these axles are not stocked anywhere. Have to bring them in from across Canada. trucked parked since Dec 23rd.
     
  4. JohnnyU

    JohnnyU 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,040

    The axles should all be the same 9.25AAM, as far as I know. I didn't know the shafts were any different between the SRW and DRW.

    I've seen many axle shafts break in my time. Everything from the Dana 28 all the way up to Dana 60 and many in between. How did you break these shafts? Were they broken at the u-joint ears, or twisted off at the splines?
     
  5. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    ifs comments anyone?
     
  6. A Man

    A Man Senior Member
    Messages: 338

    Wow, that sounds a little off, I have a 2004 with 180k on it and it has a 9'2'' boss and a vpro8000 on it, plows 16-20hrs everytime it snows and pull 8-10 thousand pound trailers all summer, no problems with the axles, did a few ball joints and some tie rod ends, original tans as well. probably just got lucky tho
     
  7. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,556

    :rolleyes: 3500's do not use ifs;)
    "Broken Front Axles 2006 Dodge RAm 3500 "
    no coments to be made.
     
  8. DPoolman

    DPoolman Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    The axles are made from American axle on the srw and from Dana aon the rest of the fleet as i was told by the dealer. Complete set of different part #
     
  9. DPoolman

    DPoolman Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    One side broken at the spline and the other side bent at the spline. The one that broke did it while traveling at 60 mph on the highway after a night of plowing. I heard a sqeeky noise before leaving the site and meant to check it once i got home but never made it. And to top it all off the dealer will not honor the warranty cause there is a plow on the truck. Definitely not impressed at this point........
     
  10. Joe D

    Joe D Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    I think all 03 and up Dodge trucks use the AAM axles, 9.25 fronts and the 10.5 or the 11.5 rears. The front have no disconnect in them anymore so even the driveshaft spins all the time.
    I can't say I have rear about any problems with them so maybe it's just fluke.
     
  11. JohnnyU

    JohnnyU 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,040

    I wasn't aware of Dodge using any Dana axles in the 3rd gen rams.

    I don't know the whole situation, but in all my time spent around these and other trucks, that sounds like either a poor batch of axles (less likely) or end user abuse (more likely).
     
  12. Sweetpete

    Sweetpete Senior Member
    Messages: 325

    I'm curious what engine you have in that truck? If it's a CTD, then there's another thread that will have been answered. HEMI or CTD?
     
  13. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609



    guess that went over your head..:dizzy:
     
  14. SpruceLandscape

    SpruceLandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 248

    I am also curious... Hemi or CTD?
    Did you happen to have a bad couple of cases of axle wrap in that last lot you where plowing? Wonder if that could have been the ultimate culprit.
    If you have a snow plow prep package on the truck and the plow didn't exceed the Front GAWR then there is no way the dealer can tell you it isn't a warranty item as long as you are within your age/mileage limits. If they do, I would definately be calling my lawyer.
     
  15. DPoolman

    DPoolman Junior Member
    Messages: 9

    It is a CTD with only 33000 miles on it...and yes it does have the plow prep package from the factory
    Spruce: What do you mean by axle wrap????:confused:

    Thanks
     
  16. sno commander

    sno commander PlowSite.com Addict
    from ct
    Messages: 1,061

    its when your tires start to spin and the front or rear end starts hopping and bouncing, which could have caused your problem im also wondering why your dealer won't cover it ,are you within the front gvwr with the plow on? if your within the limits i would start making phone calls. good luck
     
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,556

    The intent in the factory warranty is that the vehicle will be used for private use only, not commercial use.

    What happened did you get stuck or were the piles to big?

    These things just don't break on there own?
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2008
  18. SpruceLandscape

    SpruceLandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 248

    axle wrap is when you are in 4 wheel drive and you run onto drive pavement with the front when you are trying to make a turn. The front wheels are locked together like a straight axle, which makes the truck jerk and hop, usually its like someone stepped on the brakes for you because one wheel is now turning slower than the other. The front doesn't have a differential like the rear end does that allows each side to slip independently of the other.
    I've pushed some pretty big stuff with my truck, but i can see how maybe with the weight of the plow, the CTD and maybe if you were pushing a pile how axle wrap COULD have been the culprit.
    Did you ever take your truck to a scale with the plow on it to make sure you weren't over the front axle weight rating?
    I don't see how if you are using it for commercial use that it will void your warranty. I bought mine through the "commercial fleet division" and they still let me purchase the extended warranty with mine.
     
  19. SpruceLandscape

    SpruceLandscape Senior Member
    Messages: 248

    I work for a fire dept. as well, and we have all Ford E-450 ambulances.
    We have had plenty of warranty claims on these things from engine issues to front suspension, brakes, and electrical, and for the most part they have been covered under warranty.
    These are commercially used and then some!!! Guys beat the crap outta these things and they are usually overloaded to boot by the time you cram 3 guys, their turnout gear, and a 300-500 lb. patient.
    I don't see how they can hit you with the "commercially used" bit and think that they are not responsible for a problem like this unless they can prove it was operator error. Just my .02
     
  20. Sweetpete

    Sweetpete Senior Member
    Messages: 325

    This is EXACTLY what I was complaining about on that other thread (CTD can't plow?) The warranty on the Cummins equipped trucks get voided out by dealer discretion when you plow.

    It's lame, but I was getting alot of heat by the die hard Dodge guys that basically were calling me a liar. Every dealer in Cleveland has said the same thing....plow with the CTD, say good bye to your warranty.

    Totally ridiculous. Let us know how things turn out.