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Brine ?????s

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by forestfireguy, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    Hey guys,

    I have used liquids for a couple years now, but am now running an operation where they haven't before, so we have no infrastructure to store or apply them this season, which is fine. My question to all of you brine brewing guys is this, can I use a bagged, treated salt to make brine? I have a large client which is a pharmaceutical manufacturing facility and they have expressed a desire to reduce tracking of salt into the building, so we use landscapers choice on the walks and thought maybe I could make some brine. I will not use enough to justify buying a seperate liquid but figured I could throw a couple bags in a 55 gallon garbage can and throw a sump pump we have lying around in the bottom with the hose rigged to circulate the mix, what do you think?
     
  2. Crystal Creek

    Crystal Creek Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    I to have a very similar situation. Hopefully the bump will help.
     
  3. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    I talked with a guy from Dow Chem in Mi. today and he told me to make 100 Gallons of 32% Liquid Calcium I need 82 Gallons of water & 450lbs Dow Flake These are there specs just passin it on! Mike
     
  4. Crystal Creek

    Crystal Creek Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    HOLY CRAP!!!! Thats insane. I did talk to the concrete plant down the road from me and they sell it for $0.45. The only problem is they are not open during snow storms. I guess I could get a bunch of plastic 55 Gal Drums and prefill. Dose this brine stuff go bad with time?
     
  5. Turbodiesel

    Turbodiesel Senior Member
    Messages: 428

    Unfreakinbelievable dude, your a chemist!
     
  6. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    I have been told it doesn't go bad! To start the winter season I had 3,000 gals from summer! My 2 cents, Mike
     
  7. Crystal Creek

    Crystal Creek Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Thanks mike. At least there are some helpful people on here. Some just seem like a$$holes with their answers. I guess they were born knowing everything. I was not so lucky, Thanks again.
     
  8. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    You can check out a website called liquidcalciumchloride.com for information regarding Liquidow same thing as peladow bags but in liquid form and it will melt ice and snow way better than brine it just costs a little more! My 2 cents good luck, Mike
     
  9. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,039

    Thats wild. It will cost over one dollar per gallon when you make it yourself. I guess its not that weird cos they take the liquid into a solid form then you buy it and take it back to the liquid form. By buying it liquid from the begining you are elimiating a bunch of steps.

    Mike, did you end up going back to Liquid Dow or are you still using brine?
     
  10. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    I am going to order 2000 gals this week if my cash flow allows me too! My tanks arent empty yet! I kow this stuff works great I just tried to save a little dough though and this last batch has kind of bitten me in the ??? Mike
     
  11. Crystal Creek

    Crystal Creek Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Thanks again Mike. It's people like you that make sites like this work. The web site was cool. I will see if there is a dealer around me where I can get this stuff. Thanks again.
     
  12. Crystal Creek

    Crystal Creek Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Still wondering why you would post something that is so unhelpful?
     
  13. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    What do you mean? All I did is post what the guys at Dow Chem told me! Just passin it on! Sorry if it didnt help! Mike
     
  14. flykelley

    flykelley 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,124

    Mike
    I think he was replying to Turbo's reply not your post.

    Regards Mike
     
  15. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    Ok, guess I was to tired to think logically! Thanks Mike
     
  16. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    Superior Paul I have a call into Liquid cal.chloride sales in Kawklin Mi. they have been hauling for Dow Chem for 40 yrs! Thats where I got it from last yr. Mike
     
  17. Crystal Creek

    Crystal Creek Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    Ha. Mike I was praising you. The information you posted was top notch. Dont worry, I too have jumped with out checking the poster's name.
    Yes, Turbo's post was a jab that was a little uncalled for. I'm a new guy and trying to learn so I dont look like a moran. It was Mike that was a big help with this. I found liquid CaCl at the cement plant and I am in the process of getting a small holding tank at my yard. This will help out greatly. Again, too Mike and the other helpful people, THANK YOU:salute::salute: Now if you guys could only bring me some snow. Being a landscaper leaves a lot of free time when the grass stops growing.:cry:
     
  18. Bigmikesseasonal

    Bigmikesseasonal Member
    Messages: 81

    Crystal Creek, Good Luck if you need any more info let me know! Mike