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Brandnew concrete sidewalk

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by fireside, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. fireside

    fireside Senior Member
    Messages: 661

    I have a account that just replaced sidewalk 21 days ago with another section still no poured as of today. I'm looking for options for ice control products. My normal ice control product is calcium pellets but im worried about damage. The location also does their sidewalks sometimes during operation hours appling there own ice melt product. No ice control is not a option as they are a busy location.So lets hear product suggestions.

    I plan on drafting a letter in the am to address my concerns about concrete damage and liablity. I wil also address any additional cost in ice control vs my normal product.
     
  2. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,702

    ...........:popcorn::popcorn:
     
  3. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,550

    X2….........


    We havent had a good hot topic this week.
     
  4. lilweeds

    lilweeds PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,178

    Shovel it only, that's the only guarantee with concrete.
     
  5. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,997

    Yea,,,not a new, how to bid thread in hours.
     
  6. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548


    nuke it , dont look back
    forget about the old wives tails
    concrete is made with calcium
     
  7. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,550

    so using your logic, the human body is full of blood on the inside, just as good on the outside.
     
  8. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,702




    I would just use Salt....Don't waste you money on anything else.....Thumbs Up
     
  9. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,702




    Your using Logic when referring to his post..........:eek:.......:laughing:
     
  10. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    The only time Ive seen concrete pit and crumble is applying too much salt time and time again. I used to sub (wayyyy back) and we did a Lowes and this guy put so much salt down every storm the parking bumpers were basically hollowed out by spring,lol. We use Hero or ROBO melt (can't remember which it is, but a picture of a Capt. America on the bag,lol) and have for years now and zero issues with concrete, even grass for that matter.
     
  11. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548

    freeze / thaw cycle . calcium stays wet in crevices where salt freezes below 20* ?
    fast thawing heaves the crete ?
    chalk the scaling up to a hot load or bad batch?
    i poured my own sidewalk in late november 2009 and nuked it every storm since . its like new to this day
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2014
  12. Phil1747

    Phil1747 Member
    Messages: 65

    I work for a concrete company and yes we add liquid calcium to mixes to help them set up quicker if it's cold or rain is pending. some contractors don't like us adding it in from the plant and we bring bags of calcium flake with us and add on site. Short of end-dumping salt on the ground i don't think light saltings will hurt it. i have put salt 1/4 in thick down in areas to avoid a potential call back to sneak in a few hrs of sleep and had nothing happen when i go back in spring.
     
  13. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548

    thank you .someone knows what they're talking about here .whew

    i say nuke it . any problems ? prove it !
     
  14. Jguck25

    Jguck25 Senior Member
    Messages: 592

    Just pour hot water on it, it will be fine.....
     
  15. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548

    were building a propane flamethrowing prototype as we speak . should be any day soon
     
  16. Jguck25

    Jguck25 Senior Member
    Messages: 592

    Beleive it or not I have seen this. It was normal propane tank for a grill made into a backpack and they were doing walks with it. It was very interesting and cool but I just figured the hot water would turn to ice in no time
     
  17. Citytow

    Citytow Senior Member
    from phila
    Messages: 548

    calcium should remedy that
     
  18. 98Chevy2500

    98Chevy2500 Senior Member
    Messages: 147

    X2...Beat me to it!
     
  19. Phil1747

    Phil1747 Member
    Messages: 65

    on that note... the best beer invention i thought of in college. I was getting sick of using gas to start bonfires and the price of gas. After we had an inland hurricane go through southern illinois a few years ago and had more down trees than we knew what to do with. Take a propane grill regulator and a 5ft piece of 1/2 in black gas pipe.
    Cap the pipe and drill a few (5-7) small holes 3 in apart with the other end adapt it to the regulator, Turn gas on and light and put in the bottom of the pile, open beer and wait. PULLOUT when the fire is started. I know what everyone is thinking but the new regulators have back flow valves built in and it is actually as safe as a big bon fire with beer and propayne goes. better than the old method of dumping gas on the pile, little gas on a 2X lighting and throwing it on the pile.
     
  20. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,702




    First off Concrete is Porous.....That's where some of issues could arise...The crevices that you call them are called control joints.....


    Scaling is also caused by over finishing concrete...There could be many reasons why concrete fails and Salt will not be one of them.....

    Stick to Assphault and leave the concrete commentary to the Big Boys....:laughing: