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branching into roof snow removal. Any tips?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by OldMarine, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. OldMarine

    OldMarine Junior Member
    Messages: 14

    looking for dos and don'ts safety tips etc.

    fell into about 200 units for my first contract. so i need to know what is the best equipment.

    any help is great.
  2. Advantage

    Advantage Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    a life insurance policy
  3. Woodland

    Woodland Senior Member
    Messages: 269

    Don't work alone; use ropes and safety harnesses. Also, make sure your current ins. policy covers it. I found out last year mine did not - luckily not because something happened.
  4. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,780

    Wow you just fell into 200 contracts huh? Nice.
  5. Advantage

    Advantage Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    But seriously I'd expect your liability, work comp. insurance to skyrocket. I imagine you checked that first though before signing your first contract.
  6. NJ Plowman

    NJ Plowman Senior Member
    Messages: 799

    Buy a used bucket truck and extendable rakes...
  7. OldMarine

    OldMarine Junior Member
    Messages: 14


    business partner arranged it. it is 30ish hoa's With the snow we get i will be running a few crews to get them all done. and yes our insurance will go up a lot.
  8. IMAGE

    IMAGE Sponsor
    Messages: 1,736

    Bucket truck or Versa Lift, something of that sort to get up high without using ladders.
  9. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    i saw a pic on here with an excavator that had a snoex broom attached to the bucket.... best way i ever saw... no one on the roof , operator just raked it off
  10. Advantage

    Advantage Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    That sounds slick. I would love to see that. The operator would have to be an ace.
  11. derekbroerse

    derekbroerse 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    Just don't take their roof off with it!!! :eek:
  12. bribrius

    bribrius PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,609

    dont fall..
  13. npswi

    npswi Junior Member
    Messages: 16

    My company has provided roof snow removal for 16 years. I have seen many ways to do it. I have found that using a snow scoop and actually being on the roof is the easist method. It can be very hard work. Most average 1200 sq.ft. Ranch houses in this area pay about $150 to get the snow off the roof. Falling off the roof is not as big a concern as one would think (unless you are on very high roofs). You can easily walk a 8/12 pitch roof with 12 inches of snow on it. You simply stay on the areas with snow. 6/12 pitch are even much easier. If you fall off, you should have at least 2 feet of snow to land on. Decks suck to fall onto.
    I charge $60 per hour for each person on the roof. I pay my guys $15 per hour for roofs. You must consider how much snow buildup you will be removing and the snow cleanup on the ground when bidding this. I have seen 2 feet of snow removed from a roof, onto the deck, only to see the deck fall in.
    I am not sure how one can have X number of roof accounts and bank any money on it. We remove snow when it reaches around 24-28 inches on older buildings. Many years we do not see that much snow. It is a service that is only big every 5-10 years. Maybe you get much more snow? We get around 160 inches per year here.
  14. scitown

    scitown Senior Member
    Messages: 422


    "Decks suck to fall on"

    That just made me laugh.

    Like it happends every couple days.
  15. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    send me your workes please. im 15 mins from the border, and im 15-18 for staying on the ground,..... you sure would never get me or one of my guys on a roof for less than 30 per hour
  16. scitown

    scitown Senior Member
    Messages: 422

    If he is a roofing company that plows during storms and then has the roofs as extra work for his guys it is propably viewed as a bonus to his workers to have some kind of work. I may be way off but roofers dont care what they are doing up there if it is for the same money they always get. THats the only way I could see getting away with that pay.

    IPLOWSNO PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,619

    we shovel all the time up here, and the easiest way for me is to build a snoveyer. its my own invention and its top secret so ill show you in the winter. and this work sucks imo and the people dont wantto pay for it. i had a lady tell me the other day shes leavin and im shovelin her roof. then she said those bastards charged her 400 dollars last year to shovel her roof. i said wait till you see what this ******* charges lol
  18. Advantage

    Advantage Senior Member
    Messages: 766


    You get 160"? I take it you're on the south shore then?
  19. Ramairfreak98ss

    Ramairfreak98ss PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,885

    haha, yeah in NJ we wanted to bid on a place that required roof top snow removal over 4-6" haha. Its a painted heavy duty metal roof, 6 years old, for the government, something like a million sq ft worth, id have to have had a couple dozen shovelers, and im sure id pay 50k a year for an insurance policy and HAVE to use it each year, screw that.