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box wings for a truck plow??

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by omaha_rick, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. omaha_rick

    omaha_rick Junior Member
    from Omaha
    Messages: 7

    hello all, i work in a small shop installing and servicing plows and speaders. i have a customer wanting to put box wings onto one of his straight blades. who makes these? i found a plastic set on you-tube that i dont think will hold up for this customer. i found a steel set on this site, but read the guy that produced them retired. the only other box wings i found are these:

    http://www.sno-gate.com/index.html

    but they did not satisfy my customer. any ideas?

    thanx
    -rick
     
  2. trqjnky

    trqjnky Senior Member
    Messages: 620

    bring em to my shop, i have a welder and a plasma cuttter.
     
  3. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    i have never seen them sold, i just have seen some people spend the time and money to make them. I saw a really nice set on a ford F-7000, those guys could clear a lot of snow with it

    Only problems that I see with putting box wings on, (as in 90 degree angle to the mold board) is that you cant not use the plow to angle blade snow, you can carry alot of snow to th epoint of over stressing the trans if not carefull, and 3 alot of guys tend to plow faster in trucks than in tractors, so hitting a curb at a high speed is not going to be a good thing.

    just my advice tho

    you will also have to consider how the plow will trip with a box set on


    most people are installing a standard 30 degree wing, which doesnt cary as much snow, but helps alot and eliminates most of the above issues
     
  4. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    Hi,

    I have box wings and buyers pro wings. Both make you more productive.

    And snow can still be angle bladed with box wings. When the box fills, the extra snow comes out.

    Box wings hit more curbs, buyers wings have the rubber bottom, so seem to get damaged less - depending on the driver.

    If you have a confined space. Ie 8 ft wide sidewalks between buildings the box wings are good.

    After using both and with the locations we plow, we will end up having just the wings similar to buyers pro wings on all our straight blades this year. Even considering putting a set on a 8'2 V blade (because its soo much smaller in scoop mode).

    We have a couple 9 ft blades plus wings (almost 11 ft wide then) and have never overstressed a tranny. (3/4 ton minimum truck)

    Some of our pushes are long distances, with Snow piled up to the top of the blade and falling over the back side of the plow.


    But, I am just speaking from experience.
     
  5. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    And angle wings allow you to push way more snow than box wings
     
  6. omaha_rick

    omaha_rick Junior Member
    from Omaha
    Messages: 7

    thanx for the input guys. looks like custom fab time :)
     
  7. serafii

    serafii Senior Member
    Messages: 285

    i got box wings on all 3 of my trucks and my tractor also. pretty simple concept. they dont affect the trip edge or windrowing

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  8. trqjnky

    trqjnky Senior Member
    Messages: 620

    nice, got any side view pics????
     
  9. serafii

    serafii Senior Member
    Messages: 285

    Not sure if I have any on my computer. Ill snap some when I'm at the shop today
     
  10. Glenn Lawn Care

    Glenn Lawn Care Senior Member
    Messages: 552

    Do they really make a difference?
     
  11. serafii

    serafii Senior Member
    Messages: 285

    They make quite abit of a difference. There's a lot less spill off the sides with the box wings. Mine are 18" on my trucks. My tractor has 32" box wings. Some guys have 24" box wings on they're trucks.
     
  12. Glenn Lawn Care

    Glenn Lawn Care Senior Member
    Messages: 552

    How does it work when the cutting edge wears down? Is there a gap?
     
  13. serafii

    serafii Senior Member
    Messages: 285

    The trip edge still acts as it should. The bottom off the box wings wear down evenly with the cutting edge. My box wings are 3/8 of an inch think and I welded another 5inch by 18inch by 1/2 at the bottom of the wing for them to wear slower. I've had the wings on my 2006 sierra since day one and I only now have to re weld another plate to fix where they wore down.

    Another method to avoid premature wear on the wings is to weld a 1/2 inch to 5/8 inch plate under the wing about 1 inch wide that would act as a "skate" under the wings
     
  14. omaha_rick

    omaha_rick Junior Member
    from Omaha
    Messages: 7

    nice. my problem with this customer is that he has full trip plows. i have been working on a design that will allow attachment to any brand of plow (poly or steel) and will allow the snowplow to trip as it normally does. also the wing would be able to 'float' over obsticles, i.e. pushing snow up and over a curb or hidden obstructions.
    i guess my next question is is there a market for these wings? all the other guys don't sell 'em any more, should i just build these to fit this customer's plow and same myself time and frustration, or keep going toward a universal mounting system?
    i'm getting my data from my customer base, which is about 60% V plows. most of my straight blade customers bought a straight blade becasue they can't afford a V, or aren't willing to spend that much. so they have no interest in wings because it would cost money. i also know that from the function standpoint, these aren't for everyone but i think there is a niche for them.
    so what's you opion? build 'em for one customer, or spend a little time on the draft table and make them marketable?

    thanx
    -rick
     
  15. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    Wings SAVE money.
     
  16. omaha_rick

    omaha_rick Junior Member
    from Omaha
    Messages: 7

    here is something interesting... these are muti-position wings available from Meyer. they have 3 positions on each side; in-line with moldboard, 45 degree angle forward, 90 degree angle forward. but, they are rigid mounting to a full trip plow :confused: they do have a rubber cutting edge, but it seems to me that if you needed your plow to trip you only have about 3-4 inches.
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    there is more/ better pics on Meyer's website:
    http://www.meyerproducts.com/Portals/0/Meyer/pdfs/miscliterature/Multi-Position-Wing-Sell-Sheet.pdf
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2011
  17. CSP#1

    CSP#1 Member
    Messages: 59

    Check out the plows made by Arctic Equipment Manufacturing out of Canada.
     
  18. cvwhr

    cvwhr Member
    Messages: 34

    I have the Meryer adjustable wings on an 8ft. lot pro and have since day 1 there are no trip problems in any position and offers way more productivity. I would think wing needs to be same height as blade or you will have lost of spillage when boxed. We run 7.3 diesels and have no problems with overheating.
     
  19. fsnowguy

    fsnowguy Junior Member
    from usa
    Messages: 12

    I like those Meyer wings. Do you know if they work with the ST-90 blade?
     
  20. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    The sell sheet says "Available for Meyer Lot Pro Plows only."