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Body Lift (what Else)

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by rottie, Apr 26, 2003.

  1. rottie

    rottie Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    I have a 89' W250 pickup. I have a 3" body lift to be put on. I was wondering if anyone who had prior experience installing these "everything included" lifts. After looking over the situation, and coming up with the fact that I am going to have to re-mount the radiator, extend the master cylinder brake lines, and cut out a larger opening in the floor for my 4x shifter,I was wondering if anyone knew what is going to happen with my column shift linkage,and my steering shaft. Does the slip shaft for the colmn have 3 salvagable inches? Any knowledge would help, and be greatly appreciated.Did I leave anything out?:confused:
     
  2. Grshppr

    Grshppr Senior Member
    Messages: 268

    You will have to weld a piece into your transmission shift linkage, and good luck with the steering shaft. I never could get it to work good, and ended up taking the lift out. It was an off road truck, and occasionally the steering shaft fell out of the power steering box :eek: causing complete loss of steering. Be very careful with this part, I'd even recommend bringing it to a off road specialist shop to get done properly. I had 3" welded into my steering shaft :cool: but it still kept falling out. You may have to get an aftermarket one to compensate for the angle too. Good luck.
     
  3. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    Hmmm, I didn't realize you would have to drop the radiator in a Dodge when installing a body lift. On my Chevy, I had to trim the bottom of the radiator shroud. No way to drop the radiator. On my Chevy, I drilled out the rivets in the steering shaft, and the length increased by about 1" with a 3" body lift that I installed.

    Yes, you will have to cut the floor around the shifter a little. Yes, you will have to get a 3" extension welded into your transmission shifter linkage. The brake lines, you should already have a few coils of excess line at the master that you can uncoil a little to compensate.

    You left out that you will have to extend your fuel filler neck 3", though the parts may have come in your kit.

    You will have to extend any auto trans cooler lines, and rotate your radiator hoses.

    You might have enough slack in your heater hoses, or you will need to replace them too.

    You left out that your front and rear bumpers will be 3" lower, unless you got the brackets for those. The brackets that come with the kits are mainly for "show", not for strength. I wouldn't tow anything with those brackets on the truck.

    Your 89 has the HORRIBLE steering shaft design. The 69 - 91 models ate those shafts like crazy. My brother replaced his twice on his 91. The first time he replaced it with another Mopar one. The second time he got an aftermarket one from a company in CT, that he never had another problem with. I can't think of the name of the company, but they had ads in the the off road mags. I would suggest you get one of their steering shafts even if you don't install a body lift. Open your hood and grab onto the steering shaft, and try to wiggle it. If it moves side to side, or up and down it is shot.

    IF you can do without the truck for a few days, I would install the kit. Call the steering shaft company, get them the measurements they ask for, and order a custom shaft. I wish I could remember the name of the company.

    Ah ha! Borgensen Engineering is the name!

    I'll see if I can find out more info on them.

    ~Chuck
    Oh, and there is some general info on installing a body lift on my site

    www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/bodylifts.html
     
  4. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,317

    Here's a link to an article at Off Road's web site detailing the install of a Borgensen shaft. The standard one is about $180, and takes about 20 minutes to install according to Off Road. There is contact info there too. It seems Borgensen does not have a web site. They are in Torrington, CT, probably right around the corner from you rottie :D

    http://www.off-road.com/dodge/ramcharger/prodrev/Borgeson.html

    ~Chuck
     
  5. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    Flaming river is another mfg of excellent steering shafts.Nothing wrong with the Borgeson units,but there have been a lot of complaints regarding poor customer service.

    Flaming river website

    The steering shaft should be upgraded even if you don't use the body lift.It will drive much better.

    If you don't have a welder to extend the shift linkage,you can cut it,thread the ends and use a long union nut.It works,and will give you some extra adjustment if your off a bit.
     
  6. phoenix827

    phoenix827 Member
    Messages: 98

    Hey Rottie! Nice to run into another dodge guy in town!
    Borgeson and flaming river are about the best out there for steering shafts. Not just to repair/replace dodge parts, they are supposed to be great for street rods too. If you need anymore info, let me know, I will get a few good links for ya! Probably the best place to start is here There are a lot of guys on there that have made their own design that seems to work VERY well.
    Chris
     
  7. Craftybigdog

    Craftybigdog Senior Member
    Messages: 238

    I have a great idea sell the body lift and buy a suspension, when I pulled someone out of the mud onetime I seperated his body and frame because he had a 3in body lift. They are junk and dangerous!