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Blizzard plow won't stay up

Discussion in 'Blizzard Plows Discussion' started by vgriff10, Jan 10, 2015.

  1. vgriff10

    vgriff10 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    I have about a 2008 Blizzard straight plow. All maintenance is up to snuff just had in shop for a pre season everything. Plow to truck plug is tight. Started dropping all of a sudden during use. No leaks. Plow will stay up if I quickly turn off at the controller it then drops when I turn back on. Any ideas on what might be causing ? I checked online but couldn't find anything concrete. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    If shutting the controller off corrects the problem, it is definately electrical. My guess is this is PH1 plow, correct? Some of the elctical components are known to go bad in the controllers. Start by checking for power coming out of the control on the float wire when it is not supposed to.
     
  3. vgriff10

    vgriff10 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks for the help. It's a PH1. Already replaced a controller on amother powerplow this year so I understand your controller comment. Seems like a float issue might occur on the downside. I'm not an expert. It's like the plow down function is staying charged. I'm going to look at my controller and the wires especially the connection . Any addiitional thoughts appreciated. Thanks again
     
  4. kimber750

    kimber750 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,641

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    Will dealer let you try a new control?

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  5. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    "Float" is float or drop. The "down" function is only activated by the unhitch switch on the plow and does not hold the plow up.
    Your "float" function is active when the joystick is released and it should not be. The question is why. Is it the controller sending a "float" signal when it is not supposed to? Is there a short in the wire harness? That is what you need to find out.
     
  6. vgriff10

    vgriff10 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks seems I have some basic investigation to do. I understand the terminology now. Thank you.
     
  7. vgriff10

    vgriff10 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Good idea. That would be a good idea if I end up taking in. Thank you. My other plow is a power plow or I would try that one. Thank you.
     
  8. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    PH1 power plow control will work on PH1 straight blade.
     
  9. vgriff10

    vgriff10 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks obviously nothing matching up to the wing function. I believe I swapped plows once and it worked fine but didn't have wing use. Thanks again. Once you see the inside of the controllers you realize there is a lot going on and wouldn't take much to have one go bad. Thanks.!
     
  10. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    I think it is usually the float time delay that goes bad and causes this problem.
     
  11. vgriff10

    vgriff10 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Thanks is this a bad repair?
     
  12. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    Haven't done one myself and never seen it done on a straight blade controller.
     
  13. vgriff10

    vgriff10 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    So I went and started truck and the plow operated fine. It was a warmer day compared to the past weeks. I'm convinced that Blizzard plow connections are extremely sensitive to moisture etc. even when all the connection covers are used. I got to the point where once I put them on I leave them on until the season ends. I've gotten burned multiple times especially when it's cold out. My plows are never stored outside. I don't know if other manufacturers are as sensitive to connecting and disconnecting. We got a warm up
    This fall and I disconnected my plow to do some landscaping and didn't want to hall the plow around so the first time I used it after putting back on is when I had the problem not staying up. Just a FYI let me know if you have any thoughts. Thanks
     
  14. bliz&hinikerDLR

    bliz&hinikerDLR Senior Member
    Messages: 471

    Dielectric grease the heck out of the plug. That will stop the short if it is where the two plugs meet.

    Still ... I'm not sure that a short at the plug would cause the plow to drop erratically. It would have to find power somewhere in the plug and I can't think of where it would be getting power when a function is not being activated. Were you able to rule out the control?
     
  15. damian

    damian Senior Member
    Messages: 330

    We usually see the truck side harness problem at the plug when the plow drops or comes down random. solved by replaceing truck side harness. and you are right salt water intrusion seems to be able to conduct enough to energize a solenoid,clean and dielectric is the way to be.
     
  16. Grassman09

    Grassman09 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,806

    I've found truck wash stuff made by ZEP works to clean the plugs out. I think there is a ACID in that cleaner. I borrowed some spray when I was working on one of my plows last week it cleaned the terminals up real well.

    Best grease to use is the Grote grease.

    I usually blast the plugs with brake clean to clean the corrosion off. I use the grote grease or fluid film and then use a good quality 3M electrical tape where the two connectors meet. Still get salt water inside but not as much.