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Blizzard 810 cons?

Discussion in 'Blizzard Plows Discussion' started by mr hydroseed, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. mr hydroseed

    mr hydroseed Member
    Messages: 53

    I know you guys love your Blizzard 810 plows, but if you had to say some things you don't like and would prefer to see changed about your plow what would it be? Ex: My Curtis plow didn't seem to be able to stack snow as high as my Fisher. The Western website says their chain host system is better than the Blizzard's because it can float the blade to stack snow higher where the Blizzard is limited to its hydraulic lift. True-False? I'm only asking because I really want to get a Blizzard plow but was wondering if a hybrid would be better? Chain lifted 810?
  2. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    Everyone says the Blizzard system limits stacking. Maybe that's why I can only it to about ten feet high. How high are the other guys stacking, twenty feet? Seriously, it pushes up as high as it can, then the snow under it I can sort of drive up on. I have no problem stacking it way higher than the roof of my truck.
    I don't believe the chain hoist lets the blade go any higher. My blade floats up to the stops, gotta be as high as a Fisher. Seems like it anyway. Well, if I have any complaints stacking is not one of them.
    As far as reliability, mine was really old when I got it, I've run it three years now, replaced one angle cylinder that blew, one wing hose blew last year (replaced them all while I was in there), both angle cylinder hoses the other night, Now I've got a pump leak that I caused while changing the lines. Going to fix it tomorrow.
    Let's see, what don't I like about it...I'd like it to be faster. I hate slowing up and waiting for the wings to go where I want them. I'd like to have some kind of a backdrag blade for super scraping, although with this much weight it actually scrapes fairly well. I really need to put some kind of snow deflector on it, these 10 inch storms I can get it coming over the top easy.

    I haven't spent much money on it, and this thing is old and well used. So no real complaints. I mean, I could ***** about all the little repairs, but it's a 99 for crying out loud. Hoses don't last forever.

    You mention chain lifted 810; I think that's what the new Fisher Blizzard is. A tad smaller, a little wimpier looking construction (IMO), but has a chain for those people who absolutely have to have one.
  3. big bird

    big bird Senior Member
    Messages: 119

    my boss has a blizzard810 we were plowing together in the last storm and my fisher stacked snow much higher than his blizzard lol boy oo boy was he mad payuppayup
  4. Mark Witcher

    Mark Witcher Senior Member
    Messages: 604

    I would like a little faster hyd speed on my 810. My Boss 8ft straight plow was much faster. But I know how to speed up an 810. Putting in the pump assy from the 8611.
    As far as lift height goes, the Blizzard doesnt lift as high as a Boss. The limiting factor for the blizzard is if it went any higher the pump assy would hit on the light tower tube.I have had my 810 since 2004 and has been very reliable, no different than my Boss and Meyer plows. But I must like it because I just bought an 8611 2 months ago for a new truck.
  5. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,868

    Faster lift speed
    Faster angle speed
    Faster wing movement speed
    All around faster hydro speed
    Make it lighter
    Re-enforce the wings so they don't bend as easily
    Keep the lights with the plow so it all comes off as one unit
    Make a desent back drag for the plow
    Better customer service
    Better parts avalibility

    This is what I can think of off the top of my head right now. These are just my opinions, so I don't want a bunch you hard-core Blizzard guys sending me p*ssed off PM and telling me that I need to give it a chance or learn how to run before I make judgement. I've been running the for years, these are just my opinions. So dry your eyes kids, I don't want to hear it!
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2007
  6. magnatrac

    magnatrac PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,055

    Before I bought my first blizzard I ran a western poly pro plow. It was a good plow and probably did stack snow a little higher than my blizzards do. The problem is it took so long getting the snow to the pile that it didn't really matter how tall the pile was. It just took too long( plowing condos)!!! I actually like the fact that my plow isn't floating on a chain. I have been stuck many times stacking snow w/a western. The plow will float up on the snow ,and then when you go to back up the plow has fallen over the top of the plie. Then it won't lift enough to get unstuck. I know this doesn't happen all of the time but in 4yrs. it has never happended with a blizzard. As said above my piles are also taller than my truck. If I run out of room for snow my customers can pay me to bring my skid in to move the piles !!! Just my $.02 Good Luck !!!
  7. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    Excellent point. I used to get my Fishers hung up on the far side of snowbnanks, hasn't happened yet with the Blizzard.

    Maybe he should have titled this Blizzard pros, not cons.
  8. firelwn82

    firelwn82 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,861

    The problem is there's to many pro's and they have been beat to death. The biggest con for me is speed. They move to slow. But with bigger hoses and pump I think it would be the whip. Jerre does this I think.
  9. Joe D

    Joe D Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    The Blizzard is limited by stops as far as raising it goes. The plow itself would not raise any higher with a lift chain system. I don't miss the lift chain of my Fisher plows and don't see it any better or worse than a lift cylinder.
    I would like to see it lighter but without making it weaker.
    Thicker cutting edges would be good
    Faster hyro's
    Better lighting
    Better mounts for the trucks. I think the mount on my Ford won't last long.
  10. Landgreen

    Landgreen Member
    Messages: 92

    I assume you are talking about your dealer. My dealer was pathetic. Now I don't even have one in my town. Are you reading this DD?!
  11. mulcahy mowing

    mulcahy mowing Senior Member
    Messages: 718

    I also had a bad experience with my dealer. they were fine to me when I dropped off my truck to have the plow installed but they treated my father very poorly when he came to pick it up (I was at the doctors) they didn't fill out my warranty info and gave me the wrong manual..
  12. brad_diesel

    brad_diesel Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    after 3 years i finally put a snow deflector on my 810. from what i have noticed, it has decreased my productivity. one of the great benefits to a blizzard is the aggressive forward pitch of the moldboard. it would litteraly throw the snow forward and create one hell of a pile at the end of a push. having the deflector on disrupts that forward throw and now it seems more snow washes out the sides more than usual. im getting very tempted to take it off, just sucks cuz i spent almost $300 for it.
  13. wssindy

    wssindy Junior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 7

    question on the 810

    I have a 2006 dodge 2500 mega cab. When i put the mount on it say's the height should be 12-14 1/2 " mine is about 17" I'm having problem's hooking it up. I built a plat form to sit it on but i think i should just change my tires. I have 35's on the truck. Any info would help. Please advise!
  14. fastjohnny

    fastjohnny Senior Member
    Messages: 653

    change your tires
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  16. T-MAN

    T-MAN PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,363

    Lifted trucks need custom mounts for all brands of plows, you need to find a guy to modify that mount and drop that push beam.
    Other wise Plan on replacing your edges quickly, especially your wings, they will be smiling in no time.

    The Blizzard plow needs faster hydro's, I have yet to upgrade my pumps to 8611's yet.
    Both Blizzard plows are Erie Specials, that have no problem stacking snow as high as you need too. We get payed to plow the snow into piles, not beat the dog snot out of the trucks trying to get the pile a foot taller. The loader is used to stack, and move piles. I wouldn't mind a 9-12 power plow, thats a definite con.
  17. 4evergreenlawns

    4evergreenlawns Senior Member
    Messages: 552

    Being an owner of 6 Blizzard plows I can tell you the biggest con is the DD buy out. Waiting weeks for plow parts is really getting old. Every plow is going to need some part at some time.

    First year run of 8611LP did not have strong enough slide boxes. Even before the DD buy out. Just repalced both slide boxes on the 2006 - 8611LP and the replacement are redesigned. Lets see how these hold up and I will be watching the 2007 8611LP closely as that is on the truck I am plowing with this season so I know what kind of abuse it is taking.

    HEADLIGHTS- I can not belive no one had mention the P.O.S. headlights that come with the plow. After switching to NiteHawks to ALL of the Blizzard I am running, I can see what and where I am plowing. I have not changed 1 bulb or have to be out in the snow during a storm adjusting a headlight. Before the change I was forever changing bulbs and readjusting headlights.

    Modification/Upgrade cons:

    1) Worst thing I ever did was add hard stops to any of my Blizzards Plows. After two seasons of hard stops I am seeing A frame and Pivot Beam damage. Prior to that changing pins was/is a PITA but alot cheaper and you could see when they were getting to the point they needed changing. I'll change pins any day over replacing an A frame and/or Pivot Beam. I post this having Hard Stops on 3 of the 6 plow I am running. So I do have something to compare between. Also talking to Blizzard owners without hard stops it is a proven fact that those without hard stops have not seen any of the damage I have seen in the A frame, Pivot Beam.

    2) Cover will not stay on plow with manifold flip. I have this on 1 Blizzard 810. To date I have replace 3 hoses total bewteen all 6 plows. 1 on the 810 w/flip, so the huge bennifit from the manifold flip really has not proven out to be something I would have done to the others I own. I guess having a dealer that is open 24/7 during a storm helps too. Might be a bennifit to a one man operation with no dealer support. Dose not live up to all it is made out to be for me.

    Side note - Wing build ups are a must, other than that, run your Blizzard the way it comes out of the box. Do maintenance and be prepared to replace the parts that are going to wear same as any other plow.

    Ron G.
  18. fastjohnny

    fastjohnny Senior Member
    Messages: 653

    Ron, Agreed on the lights for sure.

    Till this year, I had not run hard stops, but did add them this fall. Can you post pics of the wear you are referring to on the a frame/pivot beam? Is it contact wear, or otherwise/elsewhere? On the flipped manifold, are the hoses pushing on the cover at the back?

    Thanks for your feedback.
  19. thebosshodges

    thebosshodges Junior Member
    from kc, mo
    Messages: 11

    Greaseable Pins Would Be Nice.
    Lights As Part Of The Plow.
    Longer Lasting Cutting Edges.
    Available Parts.
    Better Lights
    These Are Just Knit Picky Little Things, But Would Make It Better. No One Really Appreciates A Power Wing Plow Until They Either Have To Go Back To A Straight Blade Or Have Never Had One And Get One. No One Ever Wants To Down Grade To A Straight Blade After Having The Scooping Power And Conveniece Of A Box Design.
  20. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    I like my lights. Only problem I have is they are missing the lower pins so the light bar can rock a little. I recently stuck a couple little wooden shi,s in there to stop the movement, seems to be good. And the weather proof connectors need to be replaced, they're pretty worn out and a couple pins busted, so I don't have parking lights in the plow lights right now. But my turn signals and high and low beams are fine. I like the style of light, they have the wraparound amber lens that would be good for a hide away strobe if I wanted. In fact, the hole is already there, taped over. Apparently it had them at one point in its life. I don't see how I could use any brighter lights, with snow on the ground and flying around it just reflects back at you anyway.
    But then I've never used any of the new fancy ones.