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"Big fat plug" making intermittent contact?

Discussion in 'Boss Plows Discussion' started by maineiac, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. maineiac

    maineiac Junior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 8

    I have a 3 year old power V. Overall I'm extremely happy with it! Over my 35 years of residential plowing I've used Meyer, Fisher and now Boss. Lots of progress in technology over that time. Just cleaned up after our 25 inch snowfall.

    My question revolves around the "big fat plug". Otherwise known as the 13 pin connector. Does anyone else have trouble insuring good electrical contact? I've cleaned the pins, cleaned the receiver and still have a devil of a time forcing the plow plug into the truck receiver. I know replacements are available with crimp-on connectors but just wondering if I'm missing some easy trick here.

    Thanks for any ideas.
     
  2. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,112

    Keep it greased and clean. Check to see if the pins are starting to lay over or not pushed in all the way. If it is cold they plug in hard. Now I keep mine in a heated shop. I have one that is a 05 with the original plug still good. I have never replaced one on mine.
     
  3. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Yes to that. Also I put just a little grease on the out side of the plug so it slides on a little easier.
     
  4. maineiac

    maineiac Junior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 8

    I assume you're both using the electrical contact grease (can't think of the correct name)? I'll give that a try.

    Pins are still straight. That was my first thought too.
     
  5. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,592

    I don't use the truck side plug holder.
    The plow shaking independently of the truck.
    Can shake them apart.
    I tuck in up behind the bumper.

    Dielectric grease is a insulator , it's not conductive.
    I use . NO-OX-ID a elicterical lube that is conductive and inhibits rust.
     
  6. the power and gound connectors I have replaced twice as they would get welded and ruined...so I spliced an older connector from boss and I am problem free....also used the electrical grease..
     
  7. maineiac

    maineiac Junior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 8

    Thanks for all the suggestions. Went to the dealer and he replaced the power cable. Felt is was the source of the intermittent problem. Still getting an intermittently dead plow. Dealer suggested unplugging both power and 13 pin and then reconnecting. So far that's worked every time. I'm guessing at a sticking solenoid of some type that won't release. If it ever stops snowing, I'll be back at dealer to see if they agree.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2015
  8. MajorDave

    MajorDave Senior Member
    Messages: 947

    Cleaning is the key - as said above! I don't know what it is called, but it is electrical cleaner spray (just like brake cleaner only made for electrical)...spray the hell outa it, clean it up, it dries and then coat it like everyone said above with the dielectric grease. Also - I use the red lock clamp and take it off the Mount and tuck it in or zip tie it. It locks in place and holds tight.
     
  9. scott3430

    scott3430 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,005

    If your still running your original solenoid after 3 years of plowing, you should replace it. Mine lasted a little over 2 seasons, then started to stick.

    There cheap.
     
  10. DJ Contracting

    DJ Contracting PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,392

    I love my boss plow however their 13 pin connector sucks a$$ its a poor design period. Flame me if you all want but you'll never change my mind on the connector. I have mine zip tied and duct taped until I get the repair kit, even then I'm sure I'll run into problems with it. (connector) Sorry I was no help with the OP.
     
  11. MajorDave

    MajorDave Senior Member
    Messages: 947

    Not that I disagree as it never seems to fit flush, get that red lock you can put on there. You just have to remove it off the mount.
     
  12. k1768

    k1768 Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 490

    More details on this lock or a link?
     
  13. jhenderson9196

    jhenderson9196 Senior Member
    Messages: 615

  14. MajorDave

    MajorDave Senior Member
    Messages: 947

    Sorry. Can't find it on line but I went to two different dealers and they had them. You srcrew it into one end of plug and put two screws (very small) on other plug and it just clamps in tight and no way does it pop off.
     
  15. MajorDave

    MajorDave Senior Member
    Messages: 947

    And now on plane to Dallas so I can't take pic of mine in driveway. I'll call Boss later and ask! I searched for every damn name I could think of too! Went through this once before and our buddy, Buff, just threw up a pic - he finds anything online! I'll check it later
     
  16. MajorDave

    MajorDave Senior Member
    Messages: 947

    FOUND IT BEFORE TAKE OFF! Get one!!! Never will come loose again!
    http://www.bossplow.com/content/servicecenter/documents/msc16186.pdf
     
  17. k1768

    k1768 Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 490

    Thanks for the link!
     
  18. MajorDave

    MajorDave Senior Member
    Messages: 947

    Just have to take it off bumper braket and tuck it or zip tie it somewhere.
     
  19. RSE

    RSE Member
    Messages: 90

    Whatever you do...DON'T force it. Those pins are weak and can bend over really easy. If you feel its not going on or just not on all the way, a little shop air and a good cleaning should identify problems. I found the actual cover on the plow side was touching the mounting bracket on the truck and giving me a "loose/false" connection.
     
  20. maineiac

    maineiac Junior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 8

    Went back to dealer today. They felt that 13 pin cable was going bad. Cut off about 18 inches and spliced on new cable end. Seemed to work fine. Got home after 30 mile drive and then noticed the black plastic shroud over the pump was missing as was the cotter pin for the up/down cylinder! Back to the dealer, install the missing parts, back home.

    To find that the intermittent problem is still there! Called dealer and told him I would be back tomorrow morning and I wasn't especially happy. I continue to suspect a sticking solenoid of some type.