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Bidding a private road... learn me!

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by GSS LLC, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. GSS LLC

    GSS LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 639

    This year i have been approached to bid a private road. Never in my life have I bid one so I am unsure as to how much I should charge. Per inch increments is how the last guy charged, but I haven't seen any numbers.
     
  2. GSS LLC

    GSS LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 639

    About 1500 feet of road in a horseshoe shape. no salting. just plowing the road.

    heres what im thinking

    1-3" 50

    3-5" 80

    5"+ 140
     
  3. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    This road wide open? How's the drifting? What about if only a 100ft need to be plowed.Time it needs to be done by? How far from other things you plow.Stone,concrete,blacktop?
     
  4. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,537

    What's the speed limit?
     
  5. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Forward or reverse?:confused:
     
  6. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,537

    Is drifting allowed?
     
  7. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    lmao, 4 great responses, not knowing all the details I'd say u aint too far off, maybe a few bucks more then you thinking.
     
  8. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    My experience with private roads (in subdivisions) is:
    Roads are 1.2 -2.75 ,miles long with cul-de-sac's
    Trigger start point at 4", with a bump in cost every 4" from there on up
    Plowed by early morning and then again in the afternoon
    In my case it took 4 passes to clean the road surface from edge to edge, I run a 8.5ft straight blade with wings
    Sustained speeds of 15mph and above build up heat which leads to a high amount of wear on the cutting edge (about 1/8" per mile per push). Depending on accumulations I run 10-25mph, anything faster than 25mph blow over raises hell with the windsheild. BTW all manhole covers are sub-flush to road surface and road surface is smooth.
    I had a provision in my contracts to handle clean up from drifting (in spots)which was 50% of the lowest rate.


    Not knowing what you're using for equipment, curbing to deal with or width of the road I'm making some assumptions, but here it goes using your triggers and then some.
    1-3" ~ $75
    3-5" ~ $120
    5-8" ~$190
    8-12"~$280

    I think you're selling yourself short and you need to cover the high accumulations. I would have to think our markets are similar for rates after all you're just down the hi-way a bit.....
     
  9. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    wow 1/8" per mile, I'm glad I dont do roads or plow at 30km that could mean many cutting edges in a season, what thickness gets that amount of wear? I'm thinking 1/4-3/8" surley not a 1/2" I'd hope
     
  10. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    The edges are aftermarket S.A.M. and 1/2" X 6". I take a piece of 1/2" X 4" X 12" flat bar and weld it to the ends of the edge. This helps to reduce the wear on the leading edges and the edge itself. I thought about throwing a couple of beads along the edge with hard face rod but haven't spent the money on the high dollar rod.
     
  11. GSS LLC

    GSS LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 639

    road is wide open. blacktop and smooth. easy to drive through with the blade down. I added some higher depth levels to the bid. i do an apartment complex 1/4 mile away from it, so getting there is convenient. my blade is a 9ft western with wings so it shouldnt take any time at all.
     
  12. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    Dang, you are talking 1/2", I've seen what you do with adding onto your cutting edge. I wish I could weld or had a welder. Good info for if I ever bid a road or super long driveway.

    GSS LLC: I'd say don't start at less then $60
     
  13. GSS LLC

    GSS LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 639

    yeah i doubt i get it even at this price. bet it goes lower to some one plow show that thinks he's making money.
     
  14. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    If that's the case the lowballer will fail and they'll be ready to pay.
     
  15. GSS LLC

    GSS LLC Senior Member
    Messages: 639

    its a pretty small road. lowballer will likely handle it just fine as long as they show up.
     
  16. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    Showing up is a good portion of doing the job, lowballers always seem to have some personal drama or mechcanic issues that get in the way of doing the work.
     
  17. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Wait? You have to do the work in ordered to get paid? Sounds like a seasonal bid to me.:)
     
  18. BUFF

    BUFF PlowSite Fanatic
    from FR NoCo
    Messages: 7,295

    Thanks for not disappointing us GVThumbs Up
     
  19. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    LMAO :laughing:

    he like a whisper in the night eh lol
     
  20. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,537

    1/8 of mile road....hell Ive have one account that is 1/4 mile form pile to pile. Everything gets pushed west yo east.
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2013