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Bid this property

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by ducaticorse, Nov 22, 2013.

  1. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    I already have my numbers. Just curious at to what others would put on it.
    up to 70 inches with salt seasonal walks included. Complex is located in metro west Boston MA

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  2. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    $250-$300 plow,walks, & salt X your events for seasonal
     
  3. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    I know what they paid last year, and know what they are paying this year. And I can tell you that you are WAY low for this area. Without looking, I bet you guys have more action than we do here, so maybe that evens out a bit..
     
  4. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    ok, how about, $120plow, $150 walks, $40melt(walks) & $130 salt(lot) $450
     
  5. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    Getting a little warmer, but still under. I am still analyzing the 10 year average/individual events and amounts for a hard number for this specific location. My guestimate based on past totals and billing has you under by quite the margin.
    How many actionable events do you have per year where you operate?
     
  6. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    about 30 events of an inch + I will say though I dont do per event, I do seasonal or per visit with 2-3 price levels for diff snow depths. More eh, hmmmm maybe I should move to boston.....naw those accents would drive me nuts ;) JK
     
  7. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Couple questions.

    You push snow past the garages and pile it, or does the snow come out and go to the other end of the complex?
    You do the back sides of the living units too, or only the front access from the parking lots?
    Where does the snow get piled?
    What is the trigger?
    Salt at the end, or more often?

    I will say, assuming the answers to these questions myself, that I would want $16K to 18K a year..
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2013
  8. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 637

    45k seasonal, more if they have outdoor living spaces as part of the walks to be shoveled/ salted.
     
  9. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    45k wow how many events is that based on?
     
  10. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 637

    Fourteen plowable, thirty salt events
     
  11. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

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  12. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 637

    You should ask that to the guy charging 6k per season...........
     
  13. Drakeslayer

    Drakeslayer 2000 Club Member
    from Carver
    Messages: 2,785

    31K all in
     
  14. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,863

    :laughing: good reply, thats what I would say if I was the PM or owner of that property. even at 15 plow, 30 salts, thats $1000 a visit :eek:
     
  15. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 637

    Seeing as how there is something you don't quite understand about seasonal bidding I'll try to explain :nod:

    Your bid is 300 per event multiplied by 22 events (plow/salt combined and averaged)

    300 x 22 = $6600.00 per season

    My bid (a little steep I know) comes out to $2,245.45 per the same 22 events.

    So as an example, I will assume this property is zero tolerance as far as trigger, during Nemo we plowed with the storm on zero tolerance properties, pre treated with salt and salted after the storm.

    We plowed (each unit) for 40 hours, so figure 2 men shoveling/throwing walks and one truck or skid plus 3 tons of salt FOR ONE EVENT.

    skid/truck with plow or box $150 per hour
    two man sidewalk crew $100 per MH
    3 tons of salt purchased/spread @ 130 per ton

    40 x 150 = $6000
    40 x 200 = $8000
    3 x 130 = $390

    Total for ONE EVENT $14390.00 putting you $7790 in the hole on one storm. Yes my numbers are inflated, yes I would dedicate one skid and two men shoveling because I think the contract would be zero tolerance. I'd rather be high on my price than be in the red after the first large storm ;)
     
  16. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 637

    Too late to edit, my math was off :eek:

    100 x 40 = 4k on sidewalks

    4000 + 6000 + 390 = 10390

    so you're only 3790 in the red :laughing:

    I will also add my price would include stacking/removal and site visits after storms to check surfaces for treatment......
     
  17. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    Your price on your Ice melt is that with labor or just ice melt if just that's very cheap. From the photo looks like will take more then $40 worth of Ice Melt. Ice melt cost 3x more then salt does
     
  18. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,430

    45000 plus additional for moving or removing snow...lot of trim work to make it look nice...always add a cleanup day after a plow event
     
  19. ducaticorse

    ducaticorse PlowSite.com Addict
    from we
    Messages: 1,426

    Winner winner!
     
  20. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    I am just that good!