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Bid help request

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by birddseedd, Aug 26, 2013.

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  1. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    biding for the faa.

    93632 sq foot on 3 parking lot type areas. some islands but well laid out and easy to navigate.

    12066 sq foot of walkways. 1/4th might be able to be plowed with the truck. some are sitting areas outside doors, half or more is 4 to 6 foot wide.

    a 51500 sq foot road (2060 x 25).

    need help with plowing/blowing as well as for calcium cloride for ice melt (not salt) for the entire thing. (157198 total sq ft)

    thanks for the help
     
  2. Buswell Forest

    Buswell Forest PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,668

    Figure how long this whole thing is going to take..shoveling, de-icer, plowing, blowing, everything...including hired help time..now add 2 hours.

    Take that number, and mulitply it X $135.oo- minimum. $150 is better.

    Then add the cost of the de-icer, the help's hourly wage, and coffee money.

    Trust me, no job is worth doing if you are not making money. And by making money, I mean putting $$$ in the savings account after EVERYTHING pertaining to the job is paid for. That's why I said add in coffee money.

    If you don't win the bid, count it a BLESSING. You are out to make money, not scrape by.

    Good luck!
     
  3. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    Thats a tough lesson i'v been learning. craigs list has helped
     
  4. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    How much calcium do you think this will need?
     
  5. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    What are you running for equipment?
     
  6. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    A push behind spreader ill be buyin :p

    8' plow with box extensions.
    straight blade.
    snow blowers

    thought about putting a blade on my mower but not sure how itl start in the winter.
     
  7. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    I think I'll subscribe.
     
  8. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
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    Does the FAA require an equipment list to be submitted with the bid?
     
  9. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    Not that i have been informed of. i'm actually doing it through another company. an over paid sub basicially. i spoke with him via email and he said his office has a formula to let them know what they shoudl expect for certain services. he's gonna be back to me. then i quote him what i charge.

    being plowing ill want to be sure i bid what is well worth doing the job.
     
  10. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
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    How long do you think it will take to spread salt on two acres plus nearly a mile of sidewalks and a lane mile of roadway with a push spreader?
     
  11. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
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    Well that makes it much clearer. Why isn't the contractor you sub for bidding this? Secondly, how the f*&% do you end up a sub on a contract you are bidding? If you get it, this guy gets the lions share of the profit?? Either I missed something or this is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
     
  12. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    not as good at estimating plowing as i am mowing. need a little more experience in it. but i would say an hour to do the spreadding. hour for the walks. 2 hours for the plowing.

    tho. i tend to underestimate time frames things take
     
  13. Stik208

    Stik208 PlowSite.com Addict
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  14. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    You must walk very fast
     
  15. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    ifin it makes me more money. i'm bad at estimating. what is a more likely time?
     
  16. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Getting better all the time.
     
  17. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
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    put some good work into that plow last year. this year i want to replace the one old cyl, double check the welds. need to make new mounts for my truck and have a pro weld them. and upgrade to electronic controls.

    shoud do well this year. last year wasnt that bad.
     
  18. Young Pup

    Young Pup PlowSite Fanatic
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    You are going to push spread over 2 acres of lots and walks??
     
  19. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    The problem is they require calcium. doubte any contractor will have calcium in their truck spreadder.

    as far as buying one of my own i'm just not sure i can afford it. And i woudl rather push than buy a crappy one for cheap that wont work and spend more work fixing it than using it like it was with my plow the first couple years.
     
  20. Young Pup

    Young Pup PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,491

    I run calcium in my tailgate spreader all the time. No big deal. Look for a tailgate spreader on craigslists, ebay, somewhere. Even if it a snowex 575 that is better than walking all of that. :)
     
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