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Bid help for small gas station chain

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by jdubz456, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. jdubz456

    jdubz456 Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    Hey guys,

    I'm used to plowing for someone and this year I decided to plow on my own, I managed to land a bid for a small chain of gas station/convenience stores. They total 44 stores in my area.

    Most of the lots are relitively small, and only have 4-6 pumps(2-3 in each row), Im looking for some help with pricing out the Price Per inch w/o salt and then with salt. They have it staggered 1-3, 3.1-6. 6-1.9 and so on, they want someone there plowing before the store opens if it's possible.

    what does everyone think is a fair Price per inch bid? again most of the lots are all relitively the same size.

    Thanks.
     
  2. dayexco

    dayexco Senior Member
    Messages: 312

    tree fiddy...................... with salt, fi fiddy
     
  3. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    How big of an area are you covering to have 44 of the same gas station there? Second question I have for you is how many trucks are you planning on running? My guess is your in way over your head. If you are a one man operation you should probably try to stick to about 10 to maybe 15 of these. If the snow doesn't stop till 6 am there is now way your gonna be able to plow 44 stations unless they are all side by side. the travel time is what is going to kill that thought.
     
  4. Mick76

    Mick76 2000 Club Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,157

    Whatever figure you come up with in terms of $ (which no one on here will give you a dollar figure) DOUBLE IT! Gas stations are a pita and ALWAYS take longer then you think......
     
  5. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    I do gas stations and if I had 44 I think I would cut my throat, but mine are a higher hourly rate because sometimes when its busy I end up waiting 30 minutes before I can move again, I will pray for you
     
  6. jdubz456

    jdubz456 Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    thanks for your help. and i have been plowing for 7 years and currently have a team of 10 trucks all with sand, so as far as being in over my head, I THINK NOT. the bid is for RI so you can drive state line to state line in 45 minutes. and break that up into 3 teams of 3 for an area and your golden!

    Thanks everyone for you help!
     
  7. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

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  8. Grn Mtn

    Grn Mtn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,644

    Smilies help us understand if your kidding, I read your second post as sarcasm, annoyed no one is answering what you want to hear, tell me if I am wrong:rolleyes:

    Your first post and lack of descriptive signature line (the place you tell us what equipment you have) makes us think your a noob, then you say you have a team of 10? How does one go from working as a sub to owning 10 trucks in less than a year and not be able to bid?

    If you truly feel you can plow all lots before opening, good, just remember daytime storms will be a time killer, what takes you 30 minutes at 3am will take you 1 hour during the day and double your drive time.

    know your costs, mine was a $100 per hour, so a 30 minute job I bid $50 + salt.
    my insurance agent also said if I were to take on gas stations I would need to be bonded in addition to my 2mil liability I had.

    If you charge $50 (30 min) 1-3 not including salt
    then $67 (40 min) 3.1-6
    and $84 (50 min) 6.1-9
     
  9. Rc2505

    Rc2505 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,245

    I apologize if I offeded you. I was only going off the tiny little tidbit of information that you posted and asked a question about. If you feel you can service all 44 of these stations in a timely mannor then by all means go ahead and bid them. You also asked what a fair price to bed per inch is? The specs clearly states what increments they want bid. If you used the search button instead of asking vague questions then getting upset when we give you answers based off the info you give then I guess your going to have a sour taste in your mouth. As stated above figure out what your cost are per hour, and bid the job. It's not rocket science by any means. With 10 trucks on the road you surley know your costs, and you have to know your production rates per truck, add to that drive time, and you should be golden.
     
  10. dayexco

    dayexco Senior Member
    Messages: 312

    you have the capability equipment wise, and expertise wise....to jump on 44 gas stations, and you're on the internet asking how much to charge?
     
  11. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    :popcorn:................
     
  12. merrimacmill

    merrimacmill PlowSite.com Addict
    from MA
    Messages: 1,822

    agreed.....
     
  13. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033


    So you've been doing this for seven years and you're asking help on how to bid a gas station chain?!! Okay....
    Gas stations are a pita (at least around here) so have fun.




    Ouch!!!!! Apparently I'm not dreaming, this thread is real!!



    What is this industry coming too where people want others to do their bidding! :angry:
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2010
  14. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985



    So....You have Plowed Alot of gas stations in your career.....Then help this guy out....Im sure you have some tips since you have been plowing for what....A whole year....Settle down AJ..One build a bid seminar does not make a Pro.....:nod:
     
  15. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    I can't settle down, I just sold my plow and I'm getting a vee :redbounce:

    oh barley a year, last year didn't count because we didn't get much snow, so half a year!
    What does 2 build a bid seminars do? :laughing:
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2010
  16. viper881

    viper881 Senior Member
    Messages: 457

    Best thread in a while. You think any of the gas stations have car washs? Try and get a free car wash from some of them while your at it. Heck, 10 trucks and 44 car washes.....4 car washs a truck per push. Maybe atleast get a free wash once a month from them.....something to look into for when you write up a contract
     
  17. Mick76

    Mick76 2000 Club Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,157

    Amen!...... get a decade of experience under your belt then people might (or might not) take you seriously!

    and Viper, good idea on the carwash thing!