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Best way to secure skid, trailer At condo???

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Plow man Foster, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Ok well we just got the contract for this condo complex, sadly to the death of local snow removal company owner. Anyway i want to keep my skid, 8' pusher, 24' trailer, 2
    ATV's on site in addition to a couple liquid tanks..

    i know it sounds like alot but it has been okayed by the owner so im good. but how do you guys secure this stuff????

    The trailer is to keep a set of tools, the 2 atv's, walk behind spreaders, shovels and a pallet or 2 of rock. It would suck lugging that back and forth during a storm! Works as cheap advertisement also!

    the liquid tanks are the least of my worries, they'll be in the back, with a removable valve handle so no one can take my liquid.. But as for the trailer, pusher and skid im not too sure what im going to do yet.
     
  2. White Gardens

    White Gardens 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,665

    That just sounds like too much on one site for my liking.

    Regardless of how well you secure your equipment, that's just a lot of risk.

    At any rate, I'd be calling my insurance agent and making sure my equipment was still fully covered in that situation.

    ....
     
  3. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,660

    How about getting a shipping container? you an rent them on a monthly basis or you can usually buy them fairly cheap. I plowed a Walmart years ago and we managed to keep a container out back with a skid steer and a triaxle of salt in it. As I recall it worked pretty well but it was a little tricky fitting the salt in there since the roof was a little short. Funny how they can stretch a little when you need them to:laughing:
     
  4. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    DIDO, this would be the way to go, out of sight, out of mind. Plus they might appreciate looking at 1 container (hopefully in good shape) versus looking at all of the equipment. I would put everything in a 20ft'er and put the skid steer with pusher in front of the doors, push box first. It also keeps the equipment out of the weather and if the equipment gets a bit frozen just throw a torpedo heater in there for a couple hours and good to go.
     
  5. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    My insurance covers this all the way down to the ATV's in the winter. Only had a skidsteer stolen once. I quickly received a text that it had been removed out of my set boundaries, We rolled into this guys shop with 4 trucks, and 13 beefy guys. He gave us the skid then we called the cops after we had left. Only thing is they dont makes something that i know of for a trailer unless i rig like 12 batteries in it... Im really worried about the trailer. Specifically the doors. Also the Condo really doesnt want a Container, dure to appearance. I showed him a pic of my trailer and he liked it better
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2012
  6. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    You could rig a GPS to a single battery on a trailer - similar to what happens on a truck when it is parked in your yard - they consume very little power.

    Mount the battery on the front so it looks like it controls the breakaway emergency brakes. Wing nut the wires on so it is simple to change occasionally.

    Pull the wheels off the trailer - fit a piece of painted plywood (3 sides) infront of the missing wheels so that on simple glance everything looks standard.

    Wire fence compound around the trailer and equipment.

    Make a custom ball lock for the trailer hitch. Big square box welded on. Fix it solid to itself. In the spring bring your cutting torch and cut it off.

    Trailer doors are harder, let me think on it, but thier are lots of ways to be creative about it
     
  7. G.Landscape

    G.Landscape Senior Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 850

    OK I am a little confused...let me see if I understand.

    1. You have a 24' enclosed trailer and you want to put the ATV's and spreaders into it along with tools
    2. Two Liquid Tanks
    3. Skid Steer with pusher

    So Basically you are just worried about the trailer being taken/Opened up?

    I could park the trailer and do what GOEL suggested with taking the wheels off, and just position it so you can park the skid steer in front of the doors so they can't be opened. Issue here might be if the skid steer didn't start for some reason.
     
  8. havenlax18

    havenlax18 Senior Member
    Messages: 285

    HAHA that guy must of **** himself, what was the guy like? But anyway what type of system did you have to track you skid?
     
  9. PowersTree

    PowersTree Senior Member
    Messages: 586

    What I recall doing in the past was seeing if there was an empty unit, that you could use the garage.

    A site I used to service, that's where we stored pallets of salt. The shovel crew carried all their tools, all night. It was basically a remote salt storage, but would work for equipment too.
     
  10. UNCLETONY

    UNCLETONY Junior Member
    from IN
    Messages: 19

    Put up a fence around it all. One of those chain link portable ones. Put a big lock with a bigger chain on the gate to get into it. Install a trail cam to catch pics of raccoons and snakes that want to try and sneak in. Put a run of electric wire on the top of the fence. Then put some barb wire all around it.
     
  11. Italiano67

    Italiano67 Senior Member
    Messages: 640

    Have good insurance with good values on the equipment and dont worry. IMHO.
     
  12. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Wire in about 5 12 volt batteries surrounding the equipment and let them be the ground,lol
     
  13. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Oh he did! I was carrying my "HEAT" once he realized that he got real nervous!
    Didnt have to touch it once! I Cant think of the name of the system we have right now, but it works JUST LIKE THIS!! (CLICK HERE)

    Yupp i checked already he said there was nothing available but my buddy said its a real liability and he prob. didnt want to add that "risk" to his list.
    With this being a new account i didnt want to push him like i would any other customer.

    I do, It just sucks to have something like that taken because you have to call the cops, file a claim,etc etc... Such a process!

    :laughing: lol i wish i could! No fences allowed!
     
  14. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Yupp im going to have to figure something out because it has 2 doors.
    I think i will end up cornering the trailer in. I'll be back there on monday to finish scoping the place out.

    Ideally i would like to corner in the trailers Front and side door with a wall or fence, Then drop the pusher on the tongue of the trailer (which has a ball lock on it of course!) maybe i can put enough DP on the tongue to get the skidsteers tires off of the ground A TAD bit!

    Good ideas! From what i can remember reading a while ago for our GPS systems they only work off a Standard 12V Deep cycle/battery for 30 Days without being charged. lol might get like 5 batteries!
     
  15. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    With proper bracing and reinforcement will the skid fit in the trailer? We were going to do this on one of our sites but the skid is too tall. If it worked your skid gps would effectively cover everything. Or block up thetrailer and take the wheels back to the shop. We did this last year to store a generator, and quad, snowblowers and calcium at an industrial park.
     
  16. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Thought about it but i think my Cat 262 would break the gate on my trailer!
     
  17. Bigrd1

    Bigrd1 Senior Member
    Messages: 136

    If the ball on your tongue is of the bolt on kind your can just unbolt it and take it with you. I used to do that with my old enclosed. If there's not ring there they can't take it. You could also make another door and bolt it to the inside of the trailer. Stickers that say there's a GPS tracking device I would think would keep most people from even going near it.
     
  18. buildinon

    buildinon Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    I would make an interior lock as we have done this in the past, and it works really well. I did it where there was a bar horizontal top and bottom. Make sure to use a really good lock on the outside and keep the tumbler well lubed over the winter as well. I would Take the tires off if the client will allow you to and maybe get trailer skirting from an rv dealer in a similar color or paint it the same color and put it around the bottom, or even do painted pressre treated plywood. That way you cut down on the draft and snow build up underneath the trailer and keep it looking decent with no tires on there. It is something you coould reuse somewhere else down the road as well.
    I would then park the skid and push box as you said.
     
  19. snowguys

    snowguys Senior Member
    Messages: 708

    Bolt the side door closed or park it next to a fence/wall remove the tires off the trailer and park the skid blocking the back door and if your that worried put a cut off switch on the skid and hide it