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Best way to install LED's in grille?

Discussion in 'Strobe Lighting' started by Chandlerarms, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    Hello,

    I was thinking of adding 2 LED's in the front grille of our 2001 Silverado. What is the best way to mont them to the grille. I assume it would be to use L brackets. Should I expect the LED to not sit completely straight once mounted due to the grille angles? Due to being so close to the head lights, is there a distance I should keep them away from the head lights - more towards center, or keep them as far apart as possible? Any tips would be appreciated.

    I realize these will not be affective while useing the plow, but there more for when the truck is in use for other "work" around the property. I am looking at either Strobes N More E4, E6's or Whelen Linz6's?

    Thanks - ChandlerArms
     
  2. Strobesnmore

    Strobesnmore Senior Member
    Messages: 413

    You should be able to hang them just behind the grill with standard L brackets. Just want to be sure to level them as you said. As far as being a certain distance from the headlights it really wont matter.
     
  3. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    Great thanks - Any suggestions which might work best? I kind of like the option of having split colors (Amber/clear) so the E4, or E6? Or solid amber (E3 or Linz6)?

    Will the bracket attach right on the grill itself, or somewhere on the frame. I do not want to "cut out" any part of the grille - so I hope the light will fit right between the slots and not be obstructed?
     
  4. Strobesnmore

    Strobesnmore Senior Member
    Messages: 413

    If you are going with a split you want a minimum of 3 diodes for each color so you want the E6s.
     
  5. Mems

    Mems Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 202

    Just a heads up, you'll want to check on whether or not you can run white towards the front in your state as some states wont allow it. Dependent on how lenient a state is, here in Maine it would cost you $137 for the ticket. Just something to look into.
     
  6. blueline38

    blueline38 Senior Member
    Messages: 436

    grill led

    I mounted them outside the grille and used washers behind the grill to basically clamp it in place.
     
  7. BigBoyPlowin

    BigBoyPlowin Senior Member
    Messages: 301

    My buddy glued his with that Hard as nails... Kinda funny but they're still on there even after 3 years of bad roads, plowing, and car washes... Im still amazed! (Watch tomorrow i'll get a call that they have just fallen off because I Typed this!)
     
  8. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    Not so much glue, but I was thinking of using the heavy duty 3M double sided tape (for outdoors) to secure an L bracket to the grill. I guess I won't know how it will end up until I decide on what lens and bracket I am going to purchase- gonna wait for SNM "black Friday" to see what goodies might be on sale!
     
  9. crazyboy

    crazyboy Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 296

    L brackets or fab something out of sheet metal if mounting behind the grille. In front of the grille, clamp them with a piece of metal behind the grille.
     
  10. Spool it up

    Spool it up Senior Member
    Messages: 912

    even on private property ?
     
  11. Mems

    Mems Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 202

    Neg. Private property is excluded.
     
  12. dieseltech

    dieseltech Senior Member
    Messages: 273

    This is a good option as well
     
  13. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    Question-

    I plan on pre wiring the truck this weekend prior to installing the LED's (ordering Friday) since the weather should be good and I have the time.
    I plan on a pair of SNM E4's (or something similar) in the grill. Should I/can I:

    splice the two sets of wire to one set and run that single set of wire into the cab?
    If it comes with a "low power" wire, can I just cap it off?
    Does the synch wire have to go into the cab, or can I connect them together near the LED's?

    It would make it easier and less cluttered if I send 4 or 5 wires into the cab vs. 8 to 10?

    I also plan on adding a par of LED's in the back window (again SNM E4's?) or in the rear crew cab door windows to give me some side exposure.
    Suggestions on what would be better? Rear, side? e3's or E4's?

    Thanks and happy Thanks giving!
     
  14. crazyboy

    crazyboy Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 296

    Yes, just the +12v to the cab.


    Yes

    Just connect the two lights together after programming.

    That's alotta wires!

    Both is going to bring you closer to 360 degree coverage, not completely there though. However, I would worry about rear warning before side.
     
  15. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    Thanks Crazyboy!

    So the ground, synch, low power can stay in the grill, while the power and flash pattern wire goes to the switch? Right now I do have a pair if SNM amber E series Hide-a-ways in the rear. Would that change your suggestion? Also, I do realize that with the plow on, the grill LED's might not be effective, but those will be more for "off season" during property clean up when the truck is in the street often.

    Thx
     
  16. crazyboy

    crazyboy Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 296

    I wouldn't even run the pattern wire into the cab. Set your pattern with it and then cap it off, connect the sync wires, and find a ground near the lights. I'm not terribly sure what I would do with the other leds, if you put them in the rear window they will be blocked by anything in the bed.
     
  17. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    Thanks! I think I will still run the "pattern" wire to the cab so I can change patterns, but that helps a lot! Not so much wire to run now.
     
  18. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    ok - so I hope I have this right. I ordered 4 SNM E4's along with the brackets (all amber). Two will go behind the grille and 2 will go on either back side window (one each side). I already have a set of SNM HAW LED's in the back tail lights - Basically a 360 degree coverage.

    I plan on running the power and pattern wires to the cab and wire together the synch in the grille area. Find a ground somewhere close the the grille as well, and cap off the low power wire. I will do the same for the side rear lights. Ill also use loom where needed and solder the wires (vs crimp).

    I already have a single switch w/momentary for the rear HAW's. I will add a double switch w/momentary to control the new set of lights individually. I figure I can turn off the grille lights if the flash back will be too much?

    I hope this will give me enough "notice" but not too much to wake up the neighborhood. I also think with this set up I have room to add. I might add front ambers HAW is the marker lights if needed??

    Does all this sound right?
     
  19. crazyboy

    crazyboy Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 296

    Sounds good,just follow the instructions for setting the patterns, and post a video when it's done.
     
  20. Chandlerarms

    Chandlerarms Senior Member
    Messages: 118

    Well I think I know how to mount my E4's. I just need to find a bracket long enough. I have a perfect spot on my 2001 Silverado, but the SNM bracket is just a tad bit short so my LED falls right in the middle of a grille slot. I am looking for a "dual" bracket so I have enough room to adjust the LED up or down a bit. Does anyone have a good recommendation for a bracket that's at least 4.25 inches wide and at least 3 inches long? So far I think the Galls G4/G6 dual L bracket might work, but I want to see if there is anything else that might work?

    As a back up, I would do something similar to what Blueline38 did in his thread????

    Thanks