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Best back drag blade?

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by herbert02, Nov 3, 2011.

  1. herbert02

    herbert02 Member
    Messages: 70

    Contemplating on putting a back drag edge on my pro plus this year. I don't really want to go with the factory western edge because I think its a bad design. Im looking for one with a hinge on it. This video on you tube has got me thinking. Anyone have any more info on this blade or something similar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr97g9XYz2c
     
  2. bkabina

    bkabina Junior Member
    from pa
    Messages: 14

  3. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    definetly go with the hige type my uncle had the western one and hated it, then we made a hinged one fro his and my truck.
     
  4. herbert02

    herbert02 Member
    Messages: 70

    Do you know any other company that manufactures them? There's not really much info out there. How well do they back drag deep snow or wet heavy snow? Thanks
     
  5. Andrew010

    Andrew010 Senior Member
    Messages: 205

    What's wrong with the western factory back drag? I've ran one for the last 2 years and have no complaints. Actually works alot better than I thought it would.
     
  6. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    There isn't anything wrong with it I just feel the hinged type performs way better. First they last much longer because when plowing forward there is only the weight of the back drag bar itself putting pressure on teh ground it just floats along as you plow forward. Second it doesn't take any weight off of your main cutting edge when plowing forward, you only have one edge on the ground, not two. Third when you do back drag all of the plow weight is on the back drag bar nothing is on the main edge so it cleans better. Fourth with the western one it doesn't keep snow from getting under the base channel and eventually lifting the blade off the ground. Fifth when you need a new cutting edge you don't have to repalce both of them because your hinged back drag bar didn't wear as fast.

    The two advantages of the western are the cost, they are cheaper than the hinged type. Plus you do lose a little clearance with the hinged type because they need to hand slightly lower than the main edge to work.

    I have only used the hinged type myself on both uni and ultramounts, however I got to try my uncle's ultramount to see waht I thought about it. We agreed the hinged type were better. We used them side by side. However we made our own for about the same cost in materials as the western one costs.

    To each there own, this was my uncles and my two cents.
     
  7. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    Herbert, teh only company I know that makes them is aspen equipment in bloomington MN. As far as the wet heavy snow they work alright not as good as going forward. I feel the problem is driving over the snow and packing it down when it is wet and sticky makes it hard to get up. Normal snow it works great.
     
  8. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    herbert the only company that I know that makes them is aspen equipment out of bloomington MN.
     
  9. bkabina

    bkabina Junior Member
    from pa
    Messages: 14

    Does anyone know of any videos showing the western back drag edge in action?
     
  10. roberto65

    roberto65 Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    have had a western back drag blade on my plow for 3 years and am looking for an upgrade,
    any suggestions?
     
  11. herbert02

    herbert02 Member
    Messages: 70

    I just ordered a hinged back drag from aspen equipment. Will post pics when its installed.
     
  12. Dlongerman

    Dlongerman Senior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 299

    what did it run ya$$?
     
  13. monson770

    monson770 Senior Member
    Messages: 133

    here is a bad pic of the hinged backdrag, but for now it's all i got.. it has 4 of those hinges, which are bassically 2 large L brackets, spaced apart with a couple of shims, and it's all welded together, then the male portion of the hinge is welded to the blade. the mounts are boolted to the bottom frame rail of the plow, and 4 bolts hold the blade to the mounts.

    i think for the right person, this can be an easy thing to fab up..:mechanic:

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  14. cartec01

    cartec01 Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    Lee's Welding here in Elgin, IL does my hinged back drag blades. I honestly can't beleive how much i love those things. One of my trucks last year did not have one and I used it once as the one I usually use was in the shop. I couldn't figure out why is wasn't backgragging well until I realized that plow had no back drag blade. Made for a miserable night as I like to see pavement when I leave a site...
     
  15. roberto65

    roberto65 Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    Did you order the Western back drag blade or another brand?
     
  16. roberto65

    roberto65 Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    funny thing is here in Steamboat(400inches a year) the local Western Dealer has no idea of alternative back blade options, was shocked to think they were even out there.
     
  17. herbert02

    herbert02 Member
    Messages: 70

    It cost $295 from Aspen. They make them in house and have for years i guess.
     
  18. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    That is the type I was talking about. Once you see one you all your buddies will want one and they are simple to make. Once you use it you won't want to go without it.
     
  19. Tony350

    Tony350 Senior Member
    Messages: 546

    If you ever make your own use cutting edge steel, it will last a lot longer just preheat when yuo weld the tabs on to it.
     
  20. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    where would someone get said cutting edge steel? i believe it has a rating, being higher than typical flat stock. but i dont know of it