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beacon light

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by fnmlandscape, Jan 2, 2010.

  1. fnmlandscape

    fnmlandscape Junior Member
    from mass
    Messages: 8

    I am just starting out on my own and was wondering if you need to have a beacon light for plowing or can you just use your hazards while plowing?
    Thanks
     
  2. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    A lot depends on local requirements. There are no requirements in my area but I still run a light for a safety factor.
     
  3. fnmlandscape

    fnmlandscape Junior Member
    from mass
    Messages: 8

    Thanks I'll have to check
     
  4. Maine_Train

    Maine_Train Senior Member
    Messages: 462

    One post in this thread (July '09) said MA law requires a light if you're plowing on a public way, but didn't cite any particular chapter and section. Another post quoted info from the RMV about mounting amber lights on vehicles, and said it was by permit only. Note that that's to have a light mounted on a vehicle, not just to display one.
     
  5. fnmlandscape

    fnmlandscape Junior Member
    from mass
    Messages: 8

    Thank you for the info it is very helpfull
     
  6. AndyTblc

    AndyTblc Senior Member
    Messages: 681

    I would have a light just to cover your self in case somebody hits you, then that way they can't say, "well I didn't see you, you need more lights"
     
  7. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    I only run a flashing beacon when traffic is heavy. Never have used flashers on the truck
     
  8. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    I like a strobe on the roof or back rack. Rotaters on the roof are very noisy. BUT in NJ you can't have a light mounted or in use on a public roadway without having a permit. Cops can write you a ticket, and the MVC boys will fail your inspection if you go in with a light mounted and no permit.
     
  9. asps4u

    asps4u Senior Member
    Messages: 543

  10. Jello1

    Jello1 Senior Member
    Messages: 267

    Totally agreed. I look down on guys who plow without any warning light. I plow with a flashing beacon and my hazards on.
     
  11. jzeller4

    jzeller4 Member
    from ohio
    Messages: 80

    its a must have where i live, unless you like tickets, I would run one anyways for your safety as well as others.
     
  12. billet-boy

    billet-boy Member
    Messages: 97

    I run a beacon and strobes I think it is a local law to have a beacon but to me it looks professional.
     
  13. cheese954

    cheese954 Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    where do u go to check local laws?
     
  14. Maine_Train

    Maine_Train Senior Member
    Messages: 462

    Probably city hall would be the place to start. For you in IL, they have some rather intricate state laws about vehicle warning lights, and those would most likely take precedence over local laws.
    I believe it was the thread about "Keeping the strobes legal," where somebody posted the relevant parts of the Illinois Vehicle Code. Note that the IVC seems kinda fussy about whether lights are attached to a vehicle, as much as whether the lights are in use.

    The three main possibilities are:
    1. Lights are required when you're plowing.
    2. Lights are permitted when you're plowing.
    3. Lights are prohibited, even if you're plowing.
    Depending where you live, there could be variations of the above. Getting a printed copy of the law from your state's legislative site or something in writing (print) from the bureau/department/registry of motor vehicles is best.
     
  15. mkwl

    mkwl 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,361

    Seems like in Jersey, no matter which one of the options above you choose- you're still wrong :dizzy:
     
  16. Maine_Train

    Maine_Train Senior Member
    Messages: 462

    Yeah, that's why I was thinking of writing "Get copies of your local and state laws, and ask your lawyer to make sure your interpretation of them is correct." ;)

    Same reason asking a police officer about it might not be the best option, either. If it's not a violation they deal with on a regular basis, and you're given wrong information, you could get written up somewhere else. Saying that "Officer Blank told me it was okay" might not prevent getting a ticket, especially with an officer from a different agency.

    But I agree with those who have said it might help prevent someone from crashing into you, or at least allow you to say "Well, I did have my lights on" if anyone ever does hit you while you're plowing. I'm glad I don't live in MA any more, but I'd probably just go get a permit and be done with it.
     
  17. SD Cookman

    SD Cookman Junior Member
    Messages: 24

    Here is all i could find for NH

    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXI/266/266-78-h.htm

    Section 266:78-h
    266:78-h Amber Warning Lights Authorized for Certain Vehicles. – No person other than those authorized in this section or in RSA 266:78-c shall operate a vehicle equipped with amber colored warning lights. Amber warning lights are authorized for the following vehicles:
    I. Vehicles owned by or leased to state, county, or municipal public works departments and used to maintain the highways including, but not limited to, pickup trucks, snow plows, graders, loaders, sand trucks, sweepers, and tar trucks.
    II. Vehicles used by telephone, electrical, and cable utilities and tree services for maintenance of utility, sewer, and water lines.
    III. United States Postal Service delivery vehicles.
    IV. Wreckers and emergency highway service vehicles.
    V. Vehicles escorting oversize loads.
    VI. Privately owned vehicles used for snow removal on or adjacent to ways.
    VII. Refuse collection vehicles and compacters.
    VIII. Vehicles owned by or leased to contractors and construction companies and regularly used to provide warning of road obstructions or hazards at road or utility construction sites.
    IX. Such other vehicles as may be authorized by the director.

    Source. 2008, 358:12, eff. Sept. 9, 2008.


    http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXI/266/266-78-i.htm

    266:78-i Use of Amber Lights. – Vehicles authorized to use amber colored warning lights authorized by RSA 266:78-h may only illuminate the warning lights when their duties require them to be stopped or parked on or immediately adjacent to a way at a road, water, or sewer line construction or maintenance site in a manner that may impede or cause a hazard to traffic, when actively engaged in the delivery of United States mail, or when actively engaged in snow removal or ice treatment or when entering or leaving a way during plowing operations, or during repair or placement of official traffic control devices, pavement marking, or escorting an oversize load or slow moving vehicle, or in the case of wreckers and emergency road service vehicles when maneuvering through congested traffic to reach a disabled vehicle, providing roadside service, loading or unloading a vehicle, or when transporting a disabled vehicle.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2010
  18. Maine_Train

    Maine_Train Senior Member
    Messages: 462

    Good find. Also see 266:78-i, "Vehicles authorized to use amber colored warning lights authorized by RSA 266:78-h may only illuminate the warning lights . . . when actively engaged in snow removal or ice treatment or when entering or leaving a way during plowing operations . . . "
    No riding around with the lights on, trying to get plowing jobs. ;)

    I think I'm going to start making a list for each state, with the title/chapter/section/etc., so that everyone can see what their state requires, authorizes, or prohibits. That might help prevent any future threads about "Got a summons for too many lights today :cry:."

    I just found something in the Ohio Revised Code that says "Whenever a motor vehicle equipped with headlights also is equipped with any auxiliary lights or spotlight or any other light on the front thereof projecting a beam of an intensity greater than three hundred candle power, not more than a total of five of any such lights on the front of a vehicle shall be lighted at any one time when the vehicle is upon a highway." (Italics added.)
    When somebody's got strobes or LEDs going at about 700-something flashes per minute, it might be pretty hard to tell which ones and how many are lit at the same time. :dizzy:
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2010
  19. gottaluvplows

    gottaluvplows Senior Member
    Messages: 152

    I Used to use a little Cheap-o From Northern tool Just blinks every second It was only $14
    Now i have 2 $300 ones!
    Oh yeah if you get one Most states dont allow contractors to use then on public roads unless you're plowing or salting which you probbally wont be unless you work for the Road commission
     
  20. lumps

    lumps Senior Member
    Messages: 365

    I agree with what others are saying. Unless it's specifically prohibited, I would definitely get one. For one, roof mount shows up over the snow banks, for two, higher visibility in general. For the cost, why would you not get that extra level of safety?