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ballast, timbrens, or new shocks?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by TheYardBarber, Oct 24, 2014.

  1. TheYardBarber

    TheYardBarber Member
    Messages: 45

    I'm getting my plow installed on my 2009 1500 ram. The front end sags quite a bit since it already hangs low.

    I was told to add ballast weight to even it out. This kind of sounds like it's just covering the problem not fixing it. But I don't know.

    I was looking at timbrens and think these should help but I've never used then.

    Or should I just get a heavier duty set of shocks?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated
     
  2. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,967

    Always add ballest when your plow is on.
     
  3. slplow

    slplow PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 594

    All way's put ballast in back, timbrens will help as well. you could also get a leveling kit installed.
     
  4. TheYardBarber

    TheYardBarber Member
    Messages: 45

    I was also told to add airbags. Is this a good idea or no?

    The guy told me 500-600 lbs of ballast. That's a whole bunch of sandbags taking up room. Is there another option that's more space saving?

    Honestly with spending all of the money on the plow and everything I want to keep it minimal for now. Down the road I can upgrade.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2014
  5. cdmckane

    cdmckane Member
    Messages: 39

    I can't for the life of me see why people put plows on half ton trucks. SMH.

    That being said, yes you need ballast in the rear. Don't know what plow you're getting, but my XV weighs 900#. Without that much ballast in the rear, I'd never get any traction and would prematurely wear out my front end. I'm not sure exactly how much ballast I carry when plowing, but I have a box for sand, and another for salt. There's usually 3-400# of salt in the box and I imagine about the same for sand.
     
  6. gc3

    gc3 Senior Member
    Messages: 713

    Timbrens in the front. How much weight is the plow?
     
  7. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,967

    If your not carrying salt, buy some tube sand. Or rock.
     
  8. TheYardBarber

    TheYardBarber Member
    Messages: 45

    Yeah I was thinking of buying tube sand.
     
  9. TheYardBarber

    TheYardBarber Member
    Messages: 45

    It's a airflow 7.5 (700lbs)
     
  10. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH PlowSite.com Addict
    from pa
    Messages: 1,132

    I just finished installing a Meyer on my Chevy 1500. I have a 8.5ft steel blade and carry 800lbs of salt in the back. Handles it like a champ. Timbrens and air bags on the back. Works great. The front of truck doesn't drop more then 2in when raising the plow! The only things to keep an eye on is the ball joints and wheel bearings.
     
  11. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,967

    You have what on the front alc??
     
  12. jimbo64

    jimbo64 Senior Member
    Messages: 194

    I have a Fisher but I am sure other manufacturers are the same...go to your plows website, input all your info and it will tell you how much ballast to carry. A lot of people think ballast is carried over the rear wheels but it is placed at the tail gate.
     
  13. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    I think he means 7.5 meyer.
     
  14. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,967

    Alc said 8 5 on a 1500
     
  15. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,591

    Dangit! I was hoping one of our resident experts would recommend shocks!

    To the OP, shocks have zero to do with supporting a load.
     
  16. TheYardBarber

    TheYardBarber Member
    Messages: 45

    Thanks everyone for all the help. I'm going to start with the ballast ( sandbags) and go from there
     
  17. john r

    john r Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 239

    Your only kidding yourself by not installing Timbrens.
     
  18. TheYardBarber

    TheYardBarber Member
    Messages: 45

    I'm getting mixed reviews from them. I'm going to think on it. People on here love them some dont. Everyone I talked to in person says they hate them and they ride awful.
     
  19. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,533

    Always add counter-weight when your plow is on.

    and the ride will only be effected when thwe plow is hanging off the front.

    I'd take my plow off a 1500 the second I'm done plowing with it anyway...
     
  20. TheYardBarber

    TheYardBarber Member
    Messages: 45

    Yeah I don't plan on having it on if I'm not making $ w it