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Backhoe for driveways?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by gmcsierra1500, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. gmcsierra1500

    gmcsierra1500 Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 150

    Looking for some input right now, with all the snow we are getting in Northern CT( over 4ft on the ground) and 2 more storms in the near future I am debating on buying a used backhoe loader to plow my residential accounts with. With all the snow both of my trucks are taking a beating, I mainly use my half ton for driveways but the truck has broken down 3 times in the last week due to the abuse of trying to move all this snow and nowhere to put it, my 3500 is horrible for driveways. I have been moving the bobcat around doing pushbacks as requested by the customer but that takes forever. I am thinking with a backhoe I can go from account to account during the storm and due pushbacks as I am there, all my accounts are in a tight route. Also I was planning on buying a mini excavator in the spring so instead i would buy the backhoe and try and get by with that for a year or two for landscaping work. Any input on using a backhoe on a driveway would be helpfull also how are they on hills? I am thinking i need to do something weather its buy a 3/4 truck or a machine to take some of the abuse off my current truck.
  2. cold_and_tired

    cold_and_tired PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,246

    Backhoes have their place in snow removal but they can do a lot of damage in a hurry. If you are going to be back dragging driveways, try to keep the bucket off the driveway by an inch or two. The buckets can scratch driveways very easy.

    Backhoes are very stable on hills but they feel very top heavy. As far as landscaping use, if the area is large enough to use a backhoe, I say go for it. I would recommend getting a thumb. You can build retaining walls, load trucks, fine grade, etc. If you can, try to find a quick attach loader. A set of forks are invaluable on a backhoe.

    IPLOWSNO PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,619

    this would be better imo.

  4. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    I would bring in the backhoe for snow relocation only. Then bring the trucks back in for clean-up. Bill the backhoe time at a different rate.
  5. FordFisherman

    FordFisherman PlowSite.com Addict
    from 06611
    Messages: 1,593

    That's the ultimate set-up. Nice!
  6. contractor078

    contractor078 Senior Member
    Messages: 232

    thats a great little set up there. are you looking at a full size backhoe or a smaller one. you could even look at getting a small wheel loader they are really handy i would to get one of those just need to work up to it. the small loaders can even use the skiddy attachments.
  7. gmcsierra1500

    gmcsierra1500 Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 150

    That is a really nice rig I would love something like that but cant really justify it.
    I'm looking at like a Deere 310 size backhoe, the idea behind it being I can drive from account to account during a storm (instead of trailering my bobcat) so I don't have to beat up my pick up. Also the bobcat takes forever for push backs between storms and trailering is a pain.

    I would also justify the backhoe because I can use it year round and hold off buying a mini excavator for right now.
  8. BSDeality

    BSDeality Senior Member
    Messages: 736

    heres my $.02. my L48 backhoe is great for moving snow, but to get around and plow with it... it would be slow. also you'd need to be chained up. any ice under the tires while you're pushing and you ain't going nowhere. we plow 98% pavement and my customers would have a meltdown if I tore up the blacktop.

    that being said, I just bought a 6' blower for the back of it. going to test it out tomorrow.
  9. Mdirrigation

    Mdirrigation Senior Member
    Messages: 408

    I have a 310 b , I have used it on drives , it can slide a bit on slopes and hills , you just get use to it ,, havent used it too much this year . I just keep it around for the big snows , use the bobcat and trucks more often
  10. oldmankent

    oldmankent PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,317

    I don't think a backhoe would be a good choice for resi's. You'll end up breaking something with it. You need a heavier plow truck. Rent a backhoe for a couple day and do your push backs with it and then go back to plowing with the truck.
  11. 3ipka

    3ipka Senior Member
    Messages: 138

    Your best bet would be a John Deere 110 tlb
    Summer you have a backhoe loader, with the option for more attachments since the machine has a 3 point hitch and pto once the hoe is removed. In the winter you have a loader, along with the option for back drag blades and snowblowers since the machine has a 3 point hitch (would be very useful for your application). Also the machine is fast enough where you can drive it from site to site, however light enough that you can tow it with a pick-up for longer distances. We have had ours for two years and and have absolutly nothing but good things to say about it
  12. DeAdZoNe

    DeAdZoNe Member
    Messages: 31

    I 2nd that, have the 110 tlb and thats what I use site to site on resi pushbacks.
  13. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,107

    Agreed......I use trucks for push and pile only, in a high volume year (or small lot) I use the Case 580 SM to move piles when out of room, on sunny days and it's an extra to the account. The hoe is time consuming for clean up work, I wouldn't want to be doing small snowfalls or regular plowing with it.
  14. 06HD BOSS

    06HD BOSS 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,611

    I hear you. Im trying to figure out something similar also. The problem is, the sides of the driveways are 6ft high and bigger and nowhere to put snow. Ive pushed back my drives once already and out of room again. The trucks are not cutting it anymore this year. Good luck finding a piece of equipment, ive been looking for weeks.. new, used, rental, etc....nothing or just junk.
    A 3pt snowblower is truly the only way to go now, but i cant justify spending $4k+ just to drive around my other tractor with no cab in the storm.
  15. gmcsierra1500

    gmcsierra1500 Senior Member
    from CT
    Messages: 150

    Thanks guys for the input, I agree on a backhoe not being ideal for driveways, and i wouldn't use it on a normal 2-4in storm, but like 06HD boss said with he windrows on the sides being so tall a trucks almost worthless. I am thinking of a Backhoe for the larger storms, we have had alot of storms over 10in that I just cant keep up with with the truck.

    3ipka I agree on the 110 being a good option just even used they are very expensive and hard to find with a cab

    Boss I think a blower is the best way to go right now but cant justify buying a tractor and blower I cant justify the rest of the year.
  16. GOOG

    GOOG Junior Member
    Messages: 12


    You will like plowing with a backhoe. Visibility is much better. I highly recommend you get something with front wheel drive, there is a big difference. You will also want a cab. I'm a Cat guy, but there's nothing wrong with a 310 JD. Good luck. - Tom

    IPLOWSNO PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,619

    the pic i showed you is for sale for 20 grand, it has a bucket and a estate mower also
  18. Dave N

    Dave N Junior Member
    from ct
    Messages: 8

    My .02 cents says a backhoe will work fine for moving snow, but trying to plow with a bucket is challenging. I'd try to find a plow for the machine or leave the plowing to the trucks

    I know where I am, right above new haven, the police have taken a very negative standpoint to unregistered machines on the road. Registering a backhoe won't be too bad, but I'm pretty sure you'll get hit with some taxes on the machine after you register it
  19. qualitycut

    qualitycut PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,226

    Hire a bunch of Mexicans with 2 stage blowers.....Jk
  20. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847