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Backdrag Problems

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by wayned1224, Dec 14, 2009.

  1. wayned1224

    wayned1224 Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    I've only done this for a few days now, since we haven't got much snow in my area yet, but I seem to be having an issue with backdragging. I have a '06 F250 SuperDuty 4x4 with a 7'6" Curtis 3000 Hitch'n'Go. I've taken off the shoes, but it still doesn't seem to have enough pressure when back dragging. Going forward, it's great, no issues. Am I doing something wrong? Sometimes I have to wiggle the blade a few times back and forth to get dug in, but when I start to back up, it doesn't seem to want to stick.
  2. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,511

    sounds about rite to me. works better (but not great) if the plow starts on dry pavement. 7 1/2 is probably a Little light for backdraging. a backdrag edge will work a LOT better.
  3. poncho62

    poncho62 Senior Member
    Messages: 431

    Sometimes, of its heavy or packed snow, you are better off to push the snow up, lift the blade over it and then drag it back.
  4. wayned1224

    wayned1224 Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    That's what I started doing. I just thought it would be a lot easier & cleaner when backdragging...but I guess it'll all come with experience. Thanks guys!
  5. poncho62

    poncho62 Senior Member
    Messages: 431

    Some plows just seem to backdrag better than others.

    Watch those garage doors..........:drinkup:
  6. wayned1224

    wayned1224 Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    lol...yeah, I stay at least 2-3 feet away from the garage. I watched a guy push a pile stright though one last week.
  7. Kenyou

    Kenyou Senior Member
    Messages: 375

    I would be very careful about pushing any wet snow up to any door. If you go a bit too far, and can't get the plow behind it to back drag it out, you may have to do a lot of shoveling. Like one of the guys said yesterday, if there is a lot of snow, take it out a few feet at a time.
  8. '08FX4SnoPro3K

    '08FX4SnoPro3K Member
    Messages: 36

    You need one of these http://www.backdragblades.com
    it makes your plow work as good going backwards as when your going forward. Night and day difference. I'll show you a picture of the one I have on my Curtis if you want. Mater of fact next time It snows I will video it working on the fresh stuff.
  9. suzuki0702

    suzuki0702 Senior Member
    Messages: 649

    i like the idea of my western backdrag edge better than that one. although that is heavier duty, but looks like itll just float right over the hardpack just like anything else..try tapping the up on the switch, that should keep the plow from being in float mode!
  10. '08FX4SnoPro3K

    '08FX4SnoPro3K Member
    Messages: 36

    Does the western plow not have a chain connecting the plow to the lift cylinder? I am not familliar with them. If there is a chain, it doesn't matter whether your in float or not, thee is no down pressure holding it down.

    I'll make a video next time I use it. Its the reverse angle of it that make it work so well. When it's down (in float) and I am backing up. It BITES down into the snow because it has a sharp edge just like the front cutting edge does, the weight of the snow I am backdragging, makes it bite harder. There is a sort break in period after you install it, after a short while, the front cutting edge, and the backdrag edge, are groud down to the same level, perfectly even on a flat surface. so whether you are going forward or backward you have two blades scraping the asphalt clean. hard to describe but like I said I will make a video next time we get some snow.
  11. icemancometh

    icemancometh Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    Its all about weight, i added an additional cutting edge only an extra 70 lbs or so to a fisher 7.5 ft plow
    and it back drags much better than last year.
    with large amounts of heavy wet snow then i agree with the above posts you will want to add a back blade.
  12. suzuki0702

    suzuki0702 Senior Member
    Messages: 649

    [QUOTE='08FX4SnoPro3K;923543]Does the western plow not have a chain connecting the plow to the lift cylinder? I am not familliar with them. If there is a chain, it doesn't matter whether your in float or not, thee is no down pressure holding it down.


    absolutely it does! so yeah no extra downpressure there.you would think the 857lbs blade would be heavy enough to stay down...its not!:realmad:
  13. '08FX4SnoPro3K

    '08FX4SnoPro3K Member
    Messages: 36

    It works great. That's what I have on my Curtis. It's the reverse angle of it. When you start backing up, it's like the weight of the snow your dragging forces the blade down harder. I can back up 60 or 70 feet with a 5 inch snow fall and the blade doesn't ride up at all

    the only downside is when I bought mine he didn't make them for a Curtis with a trip edge. So I couldn't use the bolts that hold the cutting edge like you're supposed to be able to. I had to drill new holes about a half an inch above them and use a second set of bolts. But it was worth the work because the end result is good.

    I should really post a video of this thing working in a storm. Next time it snows I will.
  14. plowguy43

    plowguy43 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,264

    Can you post pictures of the install on a trip edge? I was looking at the website this morning and noticed they don't make any for a trip edge, or Fisher. I was hoping it could be modified somehow.
  15. '08FX4SnoPro3K

    '08FX4SnoPro3K Member
    Messages: 36

    It installs the same on a trip edge as a fixed edge. What you need to do is see what other brands have the same bolt patern on the cutting edge. Also if you call the guy and talk to him he'll probably make one for you if you can give him the measurements. I talked to him on the phone when I ordered mine. Sounds like an old timer but nice to talk to.

    I will post some pictures of mine.

    There was a piece of steel welded at an angle on the back of my trip edge. I had go use a grinder and grind off the welds to get it out of the way. This back dragger replaces that brace piece when it's bolted into position.

    I'll get some pics of mine posted later. I'm at work right now.
  16. '08FX4SnoPro3K

    '08FX4SnoPro3K Member
    Messages: 36

    What kind of fisher do you have? Fisher is posted right between meyer and western on the availability page. If the cutting edge on a fisher trip edge blade and a regular fisher, they you'll be able to do it like I did. Just drill a second set of holes. Get a good drill bit to do it. I used a piece of crap bit and it took a long time to drill them all.
  17. Runner

    Runner Senior Member
    Messages: 957

    Western makes one that would work on your Fisher, and it works fantastic. Has a bit more of a sharper angle to scrape in and be held down, though.
  18. JR Snow Removal

    JR Snow Removal Senior Member
    Messages: 390


    MOWBIZZ Senior Member
    Messages: 500

    There's a Fisher dealer in Salem NH that fabs and sells his own back drag edge for the Fisher plows...give him a call (his name is Jeff) and see what he can do for you...here's his website link.