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Back dragging without smart lock cylinders

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by R&J Whitetails, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    Hi I'm wondering if there's anything to adjust so my plow doesn't fold when I back drag. I have a 8'2" boss v. I am back dragging under 4-5" of snow and going slow and it seem to really fold the wings in. Can I adjust anything on it with out buying smart lock cylinders?
     
  2. allagashpm

    allagashpm Senior Member
    Messages: 703

    Try tightening the return springs on the wings
     
  3. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    When the blade is straight there's a gap between the coils already. How much more should I go? One other thing, the coils on the bottom are loose when I grab them. Is that normal?
     
  4. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 583

    Tightening the springs will not prevent the wings from folding when backdraging. You have them adjusted properly if their is a small space between the coils. Do not over adjust them.
    The springs on the bottom are trip springs. They should be adjusted the same way.
     
  5. allagashpm

    allagashpm Senior Member
    Messages: 703

    It won't stop it completely but it will help. Yes don't over tighten them. You should be able to just fit a business card between the coils
     
  6. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    I can more than fit a business card between them and I have t touched them.
    The bottom spring adjustment needs to be done when the blade is straight?
     
  7. SHAWZER

    SHAWZER PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,151

    Don't tighten the wing springs too much , they will snap . If you hear a noise like a gunshot you will know what happened .
     
  8. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    Right. I don't think I'm going to touch them. What blade position do I need to have to tighten the bottom springs??
     
  9. SHAWZER

    SHAWZER PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,151

    I do mine with the blade straight .
     
  10. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    I will have to try that. Ok one other thing just in front of the lower springs is a triangular piece of steel that is slotted with a bolt going through it. What is that for and where is it suppose to be set at? Mine is in there crooked
     
  11. SHAWZER

    SHAWZER PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,151

    Go to the Boss site , lots of good info to answer all your questions ....Thumbs Up
     
  12. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    I got my questions answered at boss thanks shawzer.oh and they told me to put my plow in a v and adjust the springs. I did that until I could get a business card through the center of the spring seems a little better now back dragging.
     
  13. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,490

    Just get the locking cylinders... If you're back dragging at all you need them.
     
  14. SHAWZER

    SHAWZER PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,151

    I put my older blade straight because needed more room for 5 foot bar to hold springs from turning . Like others have said just get locking cylinders .
     
  15. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    I will look into them for nxt year. Thanks
     
  16. beanz27

    beanz27 Senior Member
    Messages: 984

    An old Chevy I used to have had an rt2 v without locking cylinders, frustrating to say the least.
     
  17. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    Yea it kinda is
     
  18. beanz27

    beanz27 Senior Member
    Messages: 984

    I ended up selling that truck before I could buy the smart locks, but if memory serves I think it's 300ish to buy two new smart lock cylinders. That's worth it in my book.
     
  19. jhenderson9196

    jhenderson9196 Senior Member
    Messages: 615

    Better look again. Now they're $300+ each! How do you like Toro now?
     
  20. R&J Whitetails

    R&J Whitetails Member
    from ND
    Messages: 95

    That is correct they are over $300 each!