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Back Drag Edge

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by M&M Services, Dec 4, 2006.

  1. M&M Services

    M&M Services Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 485

    Quick question..does anyone run a Western back drag edge?? here is my dilemma I put one on before the big storm and the thing suck*d......I had my shoveler get in the truck and I watched as he back dragged and what was happening is the snow would get in between the back drag and the cutting edge and push the plow up....anyone have this problem??? needless to say I took it off after I was done plowing for next time...
     
  2. Trueduelz

    Trueduelz Junior Member
    Messages: 23

    i didnt by one of those because i thought that might happen. i guess thats all the proof i need. good luck
     
  3. BDB

    BDB Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    Someone agrees with me......they get packed full of snow and ice. they also make a ton of noise. I use a hinged backdrag and wouldn't go with out it.
     
  4. M&M Services

    M&M Services Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 485

    where and what is this hinges back drag edge?? any pics and how does it work???
     
  5. slongfellowii

    slongfellowii Senior Member
    Messages: 157

    I also am interested in making one. What angle does it lay in relationship to the back of the blade? Strait up and down or angle opposite the front edge?
     
  6. BDB

    BDB Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    Here you go...It's 1/2 plate with two brackets on either side(4 total). It's got all grade 5 hardware. When it folds down it rests against the back of the plow frame for support and so it doesn't let the snow go over the top. In my experience you want to try to have the angle vertical or slightly forward. If it's angled back to the truck it will chatter more then vertical or slightly forward. But.....some people think it will scrape better if it is angled back. So it is up to you it's my opinion. This one is one snowfall old on my pro plus and I do have a new blade on it now. If the cutting edge and BD edge is new the BD is about 1/2 inch off the ground. And yes I have broken one...I hit a curb going back wards and busted off the corner at the hinge where it was welded (weak from heat??). In 10 yrs one broken isn't bad.

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  7. wahlturfcare

    wahlturfcare Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    backdrag edge

    looks great, but it looks like it leaves alittle bit. how much does it leave?
     
  8. killakane138

    killakane138 Junior Member
    Messages: 10

    yup

    Got One One On My 88 Chevy Works Like Fking Champ And As Far As Your Problem,.... Lose The Damn Lift That Truck Sits Big Enough As It Is, What Kind Idiot Has A Plow Truck Lifted Anyway???... Lose It It Will Do Wonders
     
  9. BDB

    BDB Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    That was on hard packed snow and I only drug it back a foot or so. My driveway is the last to get plowed if it gets plowed at all. It really cleans well...definitely better then nothing.
     
  10. M&M Services

    M&M Services Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 485

    As far as the comments, know the whole story before you open your mouth....
    here are a few more examples of them working like ****..
    99 F-250 stock height 7.3 power stroke, western uni mount... did the same thing
    93 F-250 stock height western uni mount... did the same thing!
    So Can I contribute it to the lift maybe so!..have I thought about putting it back to stock, a few times but the truck plows like an animal and back drags fine with out it! BDB very nice set up!! and it seems like BDB has experienced a western back drag with no lift!
    Thanks and have a good day...
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2006
  11. wahlturfcare

    wahlturfcare Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    back drag

    i kinda thought so, but wasnt sure. it does look good though. i might make one for my 1 ton.
     
  12. traviswalker007

    traviswalker007 Senior Member
    Messages: 188

    would you be willing to make one for my plow, 8.6 pro western???? how much and when..
     
  13. Ggg6

    Ggg6 Senior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 521

    Nice BD blade you made there, I think I will make one for my plow as well. Glad I read this thread about the Western BD edge not working real well. Did you just use a piece of 1/2" cold rolled steel or is it hardened like a cutting edge for the blade?
    BDB - could you please clarify what you said in the above quote, I don't understand it. Thanks.
     
  14. BDB

    BDB Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    When the cutting edge on the front is new and the backdrag is new the front edge will be about 1/2" off the ground when backdragging (see the first photo). When you push it will jus fold back (see 2nd photo). That is just a refrence height for how tall the BD blade is. Also I did not make this one...I bought it from Aspen Equipment. But I have taken an old blade about half worn and used that to make one. There is a local welding shop here that makes a similar one for about $300. Any welder should be able to make one....he welds the brackets to the blade.
     
  15. Ggg6

    Ggg6 Senior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 521

    Ah OK thanks, I am goin to use an old edge like you did to make mine. When using the BD have you found it would work better if it was any taller? This would give more room for snow before it piles up and lifts the whole blade.
     
  16. BDB

    BDB Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    It shouldn't lift the blade unless you have a lot of wet heavy snow packed under the A frame. And your not going to get around that other then multiple passes. If you make it taller then you have to it will just be farther out behind the blade. When you have it angled it will stick out and you may hit something (curbs) with it and it will bend it....push it to the other side.
     
  17. M&M Services

    M&M Services Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 485

    BDB that is a sick set up! That will hopefully be in the works this spring!!! I like that Pro Plus also :drinkup:
     
  18. BDB

    BDB Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    Thanks! This thing will move some snow...especially with the wings on it!:nod: You can't go wrong with one. But put the price of the plow and wings together and you have the price of a Blizzard 810. Makes you look twice but there are things I like about the Pro Plus/Ultramount that I like better.
     
  19. wahlturfcare

    wahlturfcare Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    back drag

    This question may sound stupid, but when you go to back drag how does it fold down for you? do you have to lower it on reverse or what? im curious. from looking at stock backdrag ones, this is alot better designed.
     
  20. BDB

    BDB Senior Member
    Messages: 124

    When it hangs it is hanging straight down. If I drop it while stopped it will be standing on the back drag. Drop it while stopped or started backing and it will stay standing up. If you are still moving forward it will fold down then you have to raise the blade to get it to stand up.