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Back Blades/Pull Plows

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by hansenslawncare, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. hansenslawncare

    hansenslawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 300

    How many use back blades/pull plows and how do you like them? How are they on commercial/residential? Effective?

    Read a lot of older threads, would like some fresh input please.

  2. osomany?s

    osomany?s Member
    Messages: 48

    if you are referring to a back drag edge on a plow i would like to let you know i have a wastern mvp v plow 8.6and it scrapes just as good backing up as in drivepurplebou!!!!
  3. gusdust

    gusdust Senior Member
    Messages: 143

    We use Snowman 8' rear plows. Do lots of condo drives backing up to overhead doors. Wouldn't be without them. Makes the truck kind of long, but saves a lot of time turning around when back dragging with the front blade.
  4. Dogplow Dodge

    Dogplow Dodge 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,437

    I can give you some fresh input when I actually see snow again....:cool:

    OTOH, last year was the first time I used a backdrag on my western, and I really liked how well it worked. I got mine from my local western dealer..
  5. hansenslawncare

    hansenslawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 300

    LOL...too late at that point.
  6. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 581

    Just to clarify, he's asking about back blades. Not a backdrag blade for a front plow.
    I just installed one on one of my trucks. Anxious to use it.
  7. Dogplow Dodge

    Dogplow Dodge 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,437

    My bad.....

    I thought he was asking about both backdrag and pull plow.
  8. sthoms3355

    sthoms3355 Member
    from Detroit
    Messages: 87

    We use the Hiniker "C" Plow. Much easier to pull up to a garage door (or whatever) than back up to one in the dark while it is snowing. Also makes the truck really long if dealing in tight quarters. Had a Daniels pull plows but the drivers barely used them.
  9. ajordan193

    ajordan193 Senior Member
    from WNY
    Messages: 224

    Bumping this back up, also interested in what everyone has to say about them.
  10. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    From what i have seen and experienced it seems like both are going to get you about the same results.

    A back drag edge for a front plow gives you the correct angle on scraping up snow. a back blade gives you down pressure.

    both gives you a clean scrape. so to me the issue becomes the other features and price

    2nd edge on a front plow is much cheaper. if all you are doing is drives, i think this would be the best option. but, a back blade can be expandable (i would never buy one that wasnt) which can help with big lots.
  11. road2damascus

    road2damascus PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,819

    Back blades are awesome. Will be running them on all three trucks this year. Residential/private lanes mostly. Increase productivity tremendously which allows you to add more work per vehicle. Shines with circle drives, half circle drives and just about any driveway. Comparing a rear box type plow to a back drag edge is very silly.
  12. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    My comparison was for someone doing drives only.

    I mentioned the extra value in lots same as.you did
  13. road2damascus

    road2damascus PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,819

    I do 95% residential. Half circle and full circle driveways are done with both blades down. Cuts time 50% no kidding. A lot cleaner. Straight driveway done 25% faster and much cleaner, no trail off from back drag. Small tight alleyway back parking lots where you need to place the snow in certain spots-priceless. I have used it to move piles and drifts in blizzards as well.

    If i just wanted scraping ability, yes a backdrag blade is enough. Rear plows move mountains of snow without trail off and down to the pavement.
  14. hansenslawncare

    hansenslawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 300

    Do you find that backing your truck/plow to the garage door is more of a hassle than pulling in forward with a regular front mount plow?
  15. road2damascus

    road2damascus PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,819

    I am a little slower at night but this year i will have led lights. But if you know your driveways well and you have good tires, you can back into them just as fast. I do find it more safe with some driveways as i am not backing up into traffic.
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2013
  16. road2damascus

    road2damascus PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,819

    Bottom line for me and my residential business, a pull plow makes each truck more efficient and does a cleaner job. I can add more work for them which makes more money with them. With good operators, three trucks equipped both front and rear plows, can do the work of four with front blade only. Taking one truck away means a lot. It means no initial cost of another vehicle, no 100 a month in liability insurance, no maintenance costs on another vehicle, no extra driver to pay, and more. It pays for it self fast.
  17. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    There's a reason back blades have been in use in some areas since the late 50's early 60's.
  18. hansenslawncare

    hansenslawncare Senior Member
    Messages: 300

    Do you have any input to add? I'm curious about the backblades.
  19. birddseedd

    birddseedd PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,516

    Back blades have 2 advantages. 16' width, and down pressure. it holds the back end of your truck up, and the weight pushes down on the blade, the pressure lets you get a real clean scrape.

    probably better than a back drag edge, not better enough in my opinion. never seen anyone pay more money for a back dragged driveway. they do pay extra for salt
  20. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    Since when has any snowplow operator charged based on the method of plowing? Meaning push, pull, back drag, etc.

    The purpose of back blades is to make the truck more versatile and efficient, thus hopefully cutting down the operating time and saving money. The time saved could also allow an operator to take on more work, thus more profit.