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Are you worried yet?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by diesellandscape, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. diesellandscape

    diesellandscape Member
    Messages: 79

    I'm just wondering how many of you guys are worried about what this winter will bring. I know here in pittsburgh we've only been out salting 2 times this year. I think at this time last year we had salted 7or8 times and pushed 3 or 4. Ive talked to a few friends and they arent happy about the lack of snow. I know if i was all per-push I would be crying right about now, But thank god we have seasonal contracts.
  2. MikeLawnSnowLLC

    MikeLawnSnowLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 350

    Thats why you can't have all per push snow accounts its good to have a mix. We've only salted 3 times and to me this is a nice little vacation without having to work to much!
  3. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Not at all, I'd be more worried if we had pushed 20 times already.

    I have too many seasonal accounts.
  4. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,382

    Same here, we've been out plowing twice and salting a handful of times. We're so used to not plowing the storm we're supposed to get tonight seems more like a burden.
  5. beam

    beam Senior Member
    from pa
    Messages: 314

    enjoying this weather that pgh has we have seasonal contracts and enjoying the time off it will come when we dont want it and it wont stop lol
  6. BOSSMAN21

    BOSSMAN21 Senior Member
    Messages: 279

    Worried? No. Nervous? Very. I know here on the coast, especially last year, we had already plowed 5-7 times, and we have plowed twice here now. Most of my accounts are per push and one seasonal, thank god I have already got paid for the seasonal contract, otherwise, id be a lot more concerned.
  7. Plowtoy

    Plowtoy Senior Member
    Messages: 929

    NOPE, not worried, not nervous, but I am ready to go out and plow. I think this season will make or break the small guys that just do this for a living in my area. In West MI, we have had only 1 plow-able event so far, usually we have been out countless times and the snow is with us from the end of November to the middle of March. Fortunately, I don't have to worry, because all of my equipment is paid for and so is all of my subs equipment and we all have day jobs if its not snowing. We all choose to live DEBT FREE(other than our mortage) so we dont have to worry if it snows or not (we dont depend on it, because it is not really predictable). If it doesn't snow, it just means less vacations next summer. I have a feeling we will be plowing well into March, maybe April 2012 though.
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  8. exmark1

    exmark1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,320

    We plowed one time in November, only salted a few lots a couple of time this year so far. We have $2000.00 a month in Seasonal work which makes it doable if we don't get snow but with the majority per push work snow falling would make me alot happier!
  9. ken643

    ken643 Senior Member
    Messages: 816

    If we loose January, no new toys this summer. :( January and February are our "normal" good months here in NJ
  10. dlcs

    dlcs 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,142

    I wouldn't worry if it didn't snow, if this wasn't my primary business either.
  11. Ne1

    Ne1 Senior Member
    Messages: 370

    A little concerned, very BORED.
  12. ken643

    ken643 Senior Member
    Messages: 816

    Weather guesser Goldberg on channel 7 said no decent cold air for at least 2-3 weeks. Which will shoot January. :( I do love the extra snow money, I am disapointed to say the least.
  13. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Its not just you guys!!!! haha In Michigan we are salting as we speak! We have had 3-4 salt events compared to Last years 3-4 Plows and 6 saltings by now.

    We're anxious for snow, but cant really complain. It soooooo much easier on less stressful on the trucks nd equipment to press a button (on the liquid sprayer) or salt spreader. Than run a truck into 150 "brick walls" (Whether its plowing driveways or parking lots.)
  14. dlcs

    dlcs 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,142

    See I have heard different. John Dee said in his last update that the current low lodged near greenland is starting to dislodge and that will mean colder air for us and may bring more snows. But no big snowmakers insight now. But who knows for sure, changes day to day.
  15. dlcs

    dlcs 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,142

    Lucky you....we have only had 2 salt events.LOL I love to salt, those all day freezing rain events are great for business. We haven't had one of those in a couple years, I'll take it. Customers seem to apreciate you more for those type of events rather than the little snows where everyone can still get around ok.
  16. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH PlowSite.com Addict
    from pa
    Messages: 1,132

    I'm more worried that if it does snow, I won't be able to do any work. I messed up my back a few weeks ago and it's not getting any better. I might have to have surgery. On top of all that. the doctor wants me to take a stress test. He thinks I have blockage in my arteries!
  17. BPS#1

    BPS#1 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,394

    It all runs in cycles.

    I've had 25" across 5 events so far this winter. Some winters we don't get more than 4" ALL winter across 2 events.
    My plow is paid for, but I still like the benjamins.
    No benjamins in the forecast for the next 10 days.
  18. ken643

    ken643 Senior Member
    Messages: 816

    @DLCS I hope your weather guy is right, that at least gives some hope. Fingers crossed fellas!
  19. PenfieldProp

    PenfieldProp Junior Member
    from 06880
    Messages: 12

    Plowing is not my primary income I do excavating and trucking so usually its something to do in the off months but SURE I would love to see a few small events it makes me feel less guilty about spending for new fishing gear when the ground is frozen and we can't dig. But the lack of frost has kept the work being able to go as normal so really no complaints here. I will say I also own my house trucks plow jetski and boat if I can't afford it I don't buy it wish is why I have been able to maintain and live comfortable in the dirt buisness u must save because those mortgages and credit cards don't seem to care when u lose a bid
  20. Eronningen

    Eronningen Senior Member
    Messages: 442

    Glad I don't count on it is all I can say. Feel bad for the guys that are counting on it. Plowing for us is a bonus secondary income in the winter but only accounts for 5-10% of revenues.
    I'm mainly pissed I can't snowmobile. Two new sleds in the shop and no snow in sight