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Are you guys kidding me!

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by snow junkie, Sep 5, 2008.

  1. snow junkie

    snow junkie Junior Member
    Messages: 15

    Everyday I receive feedback from store managers that salt prices from the next guy are a third of my cost per application. How can you do a salt application for $250.00 when the material alone this year is well over that cost for the amount needed. If somebody can answer that please let me know. I think too many people are not doing their homework on how scarce salt is this year. Well I had to vent. I guess some people like to work for free.
     
  2. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,546

    alot of people work for free...the problem is they don't know it til after the work is done....:rolleyes:
     
  3. Camden

    Camden PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,598

    Do you know how much the guy is charging each time he plows? He might be making a killing on that end of it so he can get away with charging next to nothing for salt.
     
  4. snow junkie

    snow junkie Junior Member
    Messages: 15

    Way to low

    He is only charging $300.00 per visit on a 7 acre property.
     
  5. Neige

    Neige Sponsor
    Messages: 2,197

    Or he is spreading very little salt. I lost a high school 5 years ago where I would spread 2 tons with my v-box. The new guy came in with a curtis tailgate speader and would spread around 10 bags worth. Its always icy but they seem not to mind.
     
  6. tls22

    tls22 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,263

    The reason for this is we have not had alot of snow for about 2 winters now, guys have no idea what to expect when it snows like crazy. Dont worry we will get a ton of snow this winter, and the low ballers will be left to tread water. That lot will call you, when the the guys equipment is broken down. It sucks that it like this, but dont worry only one good winter to kill the low ballers!
     
  7. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    i think this is mostly due to ppl not doing there home work, not staying up with the industry and costs of operation... i just bid a 10 acre site today , turned in the bid, they want a meeting tommarow because they loved it... i think it was around 575 just to salt... not a great killer money maker, but got my foot in the door lets just hope i can salt it with less than 3 tons , 2 would be real nice
     
  8. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    That's just way too cheap!! :cry:
     
  9. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    well thats about 2 tons, so $150 per ton, thats not such a bad price , if you were basing getting salt from last year at 48 per ton.... looks like this year hes only going to make $50 on the deal, minus fuel, and operator, he might make 10 bucks
     
  10. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    I dont think many ppl know about the salt this year to tell you guys the truth.
     
  11. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    yep, thats the truth , which make me have to keep my price lower than id like
     
  12. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    I talked to a guy the other day, his plan is since the price of salt is omost twice what it was.

    Hes going to tell his clients, and cut the amount of salt they use in 1/2 so the cost will be about the same
     
  13. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    thats kinda what im going for , however im going to pre -wet the salt, and pre -treat the parking lot with liquid
     
  14. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    I was at lesco the other day, and was asking about there ice melt just wasting time.

    And a guy was like, whats wrong with salt? I havent heard anything about it really theres a shortage?
     
  15. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    Yea I think that will work the way your doing it.


    But this guy is just going to cut it in 1/2

    IMO he dosent salt enought any ways
     
  16. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    and he's a supplier? i think he has spent too much time in the pesticide cabinet
     
  17. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    No it was a contractor that was in there at the same time lol
     
  18. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    figures why the landscpae industry is messed up..... honestly if i had it my way , i wouldnt even do landscaping
     
  19. TCLA

    TCLA 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,699

    I must be confused. I thought he was responding to Camden's plow question. $300 is very low if that's his per ap price for 7 acres.
     
  20. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    I know,

    Not to high jack the thread, but Mowing is the wost of them all