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Anyone felt the need to upgrade front springs on new Ram?

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by MT250, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. MT250

    MT250 Junior Member
    from North
    Messages: 25

    This may be a premature question as I haven't bought the plow yet but I dislike having the nose-down attitude when carrying a plow. I noticed that increased spring rates are not a part of the plow prep packages so I am wondering if anyone is thinking about a leveling lift or some other front suspension change to accommodate a 900 lb plow on a current generation Ram?
     
  2. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,546

    I have a 2500 14' with a 8' blizzard and see no reason to need extra springs in the front
     
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,583

    Add #400-500 behind the rear axle out by the tale-gate,
    see, what that does.

    spacers dont add capacity.
    stiffer springs are a option.
    airbag.
    If you add height have it aligned.
    the front ends can be finicky.
    ie,caster and toe.
     
  4. dave_dj1

    dave_dj1 Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 350

    I'm glad you brought this up. I have a 15 Ram 2500 with a Fisher 9.5' XV and the corners when in vee mode just about drag on the ground. I tried adjusting the chain last night but the stop on the plow frame won't let it come up any more anyway. I don't like the looks of the forward rake on this truck. I am just starting to research different front springs. The only thing I have done with the plow is to drive it from storage to here last night in preparation/anticipation of the storm we are getting (an inch of snow/ice and now all rain).
    I would think that if the truck really had a "plow prep" package that the springs would accommodate the plow in a reasonable manner.
    Is there any way I can check my vin to see if I actually have the plow prep package? Would a dealer install such a large plow on a truck that didn't have a plow prep package?
    Dave
     
  5. Whiffyspark

    Whiffyspark 2000 Club Member
    from SOMD
    Messages: 2,402

    Just bump the vee out. Most trucks have that issue.
     
  6. MT250

    MT250 Junior Member
    from North
    Messages: 25

    I don't think the VIN has that info. Do you have the window sticker?
     
  7. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 8,583

  8. dave_dj1

    dave_dj1 Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 350

    Yeah, no info found attached to vin but I did find the window sticker in the glove box, it says I have Snow chief group at the tune of 780 bucks, 180 amp alternator, 275 18 on/off road tires, anti-spin rear axle, instrument panel mounted switches, clearance lights and skid plate.
    I guess the springs are normal.
    I did find one interesting thing, the vin on my ins card is wrong! I just called my agent and told them to change it to the vin on my window sticker. Somewhere along the way a L was mistaken for a C.

    As far as moving forward a little of Vee, I will try that and to be fair I don't have any counter weight in the bed yet, my wife parked in the way of my pallet of cinder blocks! :mechanic:

    Thanks for the replies. didn't mean to hijack this thread.
     
  9. MT250

    MT250 Junior Member
    from North
    Messages: 25

    No problem. It amazes me that the Snow Chief option doesn't include heavier springs, but I don't see any real problems with Rams I see driving around.
    Has anyone used the auxiliary switches for anything? I imagine they could be for a strobe or additional lighting. It would really be cool if the Snow Chief package included built in strobes.
     
  10. dave_dj1

    dave_dj1 Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 350

    MT250, I don't think the springs are weak per se, I just don't like the way the truck sits to begin with. I installed a leveling kit in my 10 and it made it look much nicer, kind of like a highboy. I don't really notice any great drop when I lift the plow. Maybe the leveling kit is the way to go?
    Has anyone tried these front air bags?
    http://www.truckspring.com/products...Dodge-Ram-1500-2500-3500-Front-4WD__8621.aspx
     
  11. lawnboy2121

    lawnboy2121 Senior Member
    Messages: 467

    I put a 2" leveling kit on mine I have a 2015 3500 with a fisher 9.6 xv2 on it . It carries the plow great plenty of clearance with the wings folded back
     
  12. lawnboy2121

    lawnboy2121 Senior Member
    Messages: 467

    Here is a pic of the truck and plow

    image.jpg
     
  13. lawnboy2121

    lawnboy2121 Senior Member
    Messages: 467

    Sorry it's upside down
     
  14. dave_dj1

    dave_dj1 Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 350

    That's the answer I was hoping for, thanks !:mechanic:
     
  15. MT250

    MT250 Junior Member
    from North
    Messages: 25

    Looks perfectThumbs Up
     
  16. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,887

    Airbabgs.............
     
  17. CowboysLC_DE

    CowboysLC_DE Senior Member
    Messages: 174

    With my 3500 listed below the 8.2VXT does make the front squat some but that was with absolutely nothing in the bed. And to the gentlemen that said his edges touch the ground all you need to do is bump out each side of the plow, usually 1-2 hits on the button for each wing.

    Michael
     
  18. cl733

    cl733 Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 252

    I added a tough truck variable rate spring on a 09 diesel, and believe it or not it lifted it about 2.5 inches , they claimed a 2 inch lift, and it rides better than it did stock, springs are longer and thicker and the pack the 810 just great
     
  19. GLS

    GLS Senior Member
    Messages: 248

    I would get the plow mounted before changing the suspension and then decide.

    We recently set up our new '15 ram 3500 and were very pleased with the springs front and back. The truck does have a decent amount of rake when empty, but sits great with weight in the bed/trailer with no need for beefier springs/air bags.

    Here's the truck with some tongue weight. Thought about leveling the front, but then it would sag with bed weight/trailer.

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    For the front end, it would appear as the truck sags with the plow, but the springs barely move. With proper ballast in the bed, it should sit great. I don't have a pic with ballast.

    Here is a plow down/plow up comparison. If you look at the gap between the tire and fender, I think the drop is about 3/4".

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    This truck came with the upfitter switches. They are great. No more running wires through the firewall, fuses and relays already setup. And there are some leads going to the back of the truck that we used for backup lights. Highly recommended option.
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2015
  20. cl733

    cl733 Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 252

    that's pretty good if you only drop that much , my 09 laid down pretty good on the front, it had to have something done to it