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Anyone do New car lots??

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by bottlefed89, Nov 18, 2004.

  1. bottlefed89

    bottlefed89 Member
    Messages: 69

    I put in a bid at a mitsubishi dealership here the other day. I priced them at $270 per push x-4", and $135 an hour for any time they may want to move any cars. Is this how you'd have handle a bid for a place like this??
     
  2. bolensdriver

    bolensdriver Senior Member
    Messages: 603

    I don't know man but I'm surprised they down have a mitsubishi truck or something to plow the lot.
     
  3. Hawkc01

    Hawkc01 Member
    Messages: 49

    Most dealerships require their staff to do all of the snow removal. Sales staff cleans off the cars while parts and repair deparment moves cars and clears the lot.

    IMO...DONT DO THEM! TOO MUCH RISK AND BABYSITTING.
     
  4. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    I do 2 car lots, I clear the isles and charge for one push then come back in a hour and do the rest and charge another push, then come back at the end of the route and clear the isles again and bill $150 a hour for my time to do a final cleanup
     
  5. 04superduty

    04superduty PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,354

    the local ford dealer always has a few new trucks with plows on them so they do thier own plowing. i asked one of the service guys if they ever have problems with non experienced people running the trucks and he said yep. a couple of vehicles get damaged every year.
    i do wonder about the trucks. if they are used to plow can they still be considered new?
     
  6. jasf

    jasf Member
    Messages: 63

    Dealership plowing

    I learned to plow at my family owned Ford dealer. A couple of things to take note of:after hours service drop offs will always be in the way,transport drivers will always leave overnite deliveries in the way & porters will always park 4x4s on the snow banks you stack. I never wrecked any of the inventory,but I did back over a customers' escort.I was pushing the piles back & this kid followed me right in. I never saw him behind me & backed right over the hood. Amber light was rotating,back up beeper was beeping & he still drove right up to the tailgate. At our dealership the new stuff was absoloutly off limits! We plowed with junk trade ins & if that broke we jumped in the front line used trucks.Never heard of a dealer contracting for plowing. We only did it for loader service.
     
  7. bottlefed89

    bottlefed89 Member
    Messages: 69

    None of your dealers hire out, eh?? I've got two, got bids out on 2 now, and was asked by a friends landscaping co. to bid on 3 more today. I really can't believe the amount of work I've stumbled upon over the last few days. If even one fourth of it would come through, I'd be a very very happy guy....

    So.... Basically you all that do car lots plow the main drive first, then let them move what they want and come back??
    I'll know tomorrow morning on the mitsub. deal, so we'll see.
     
  8. jasf

    jasf Member
    Messages: 63

    I've never heard of a dealer hiring out for plowing here.We do have some different circumstances based on location though.
     
  9. T-MAN

    T-MAN PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,363

    Some dealerships do use new stuff for plowing there own stuff. I believe if the truck is under 300 miles it can still be sold as new. The number one chevy dealer(in the USA), is in my neck of the woods. They use new trucks. They sub out the salt to a local farmer. Yes they are cheap som'beaches. Crooks probally better explains them :rolleyes: Also I would have to think liability insurance would have to be quite high for them too. So this self releince thing may fall to the wayside.
    Todd
     
  10. bottlefed89

    bottlefed89 Member
    Messages: 69

    Yep, one of them I am to bid said they quit doing it because of insurance issues, and because they had to use inexperienced people that weren't very good at plowing. AND it wasn't done when they got there. They say its easier to just get to work and have it done, unless it's deep enough to move the cars and such...
     
  11. jasf

    jasf Member
    Messages: 63

    How did the deal turn out?
     
  12. Tarkus

    Tarkus PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,113

    Never did (or tried too) a new car lot and cannot say I want to either, not that I cannot do it right but it could be your word against theirs if they claim pushed snow damage on new cars so I stay away. I have done a few used car lots though. If you do you want your truck loaded really heavy so it goes where it is aimed and will not be deflected by heavy snow and will not spin and slide some. Precision is key here.
     
  13. MetroTurf

    MetroTurf Junior Member
    Messages: 27

    I know this is an old thread but I was searching for this topic. I am bidding a dodge dealership here and I am planning on calling them the night before the storm and having them pile all the cars on one half of the lot. I will clean the empty half and they can call my cell phone when the other half is empty of cars and I will go back and clean it. Does this sound reasonable?
     
  14. Little Jon

    Little Jon Senior Member
    from Buffalo
    Messages: 139

    We tried this once at an apartment complex, didnt work, but then again it was "low income housing", a car lot probably would work and be a good deal.
     
  15. REAPER

    REAPER 2000 Club Member
    from 60050
    Messages: 2,228


    It is a good plan.

    Until the first storm that misses you after you have them move the vehicles.

    After that I would imagine them not wanting to pay their labor to help you.

    You also are having the customer tell you when to work.

    What if it gets real cold and they are in no hurry to move those cars back.

    They call you and tell you to come back in 2 days instead. Now you have frozen unplowed untreated mess.

    I would never count on a client to tell me when to work.

    Just my opine though.
     
  16. ironjet

    ironjet Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    heres a little correction from personal experience : sales staff cleans off cars within sight of the boss and runs back inside leaving the lot guy to finish the rest of the lot by himself !
     
  17. William B.

    William B. Senior Member
    from S.E. IA
    Messages: 978

    Around here alot of the dealerships will order a couple plan jane work trucks with the plow package on them and throw a couple plows on them and do it themselves.
     
  18. fordmstng66

    fordmstng66 Senior Member
    Messages: 527


    I was looking at Chevy trucks, they had one with a Meyer plow they used to plow the lot, they were selling it as new, but at a discounted price. The plow was all banged up. There were nicks in the poly blade, some were pretty deep.
     
  19. ironjet

    ironjet Junior Member
    Messages: 19

    the ones we used were trade-ins that already had plows on them and they were used year round. in the summer we put water tanks and pressure washer on them to wash cars on the lot or they were used for towing cars around and hauling the trash. every couple years a newer truck would come in on trade and a plow would be swapped to it , retiring the oldest
     
  20. mike psd

    mike psd PlowSite.com Addict
    from pa
    Messages: 1,028

    i work for new car dealer and we the techs are out there cleaning the lot while sales moves cars and cleans them off . they ask me to plow and i told them no there alot of reason's mainly try don't wanna pay for for my time and truck wear and tear . if i ever hit something that be the sh*t hitting the fan . beside the fact the owner's kid insulted me about my truck one time .it's funny to watch him "try" and plow with his trucks and struggle . i don't come in anymore for the "big ones" i'm out making money for myself