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Any thoughts on a Sno-Way plow?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by starspangled6.0, Nov 29, 2014.

  1. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    Got a friend who's interested in letting his hardly-used Sno-Way plow go next year for just a few grand. As far as I know, it's the Revolution plow, the one that's sort of like the Wide Out. Any thoughts or reviews on their plows?
     
  2. stone74

    stone74 Member
    Messages: 52

    I love my Sno-Way, works great and has not let me down over the past 2 seasons!
    Just remember you need to have a good dealer near by for when something happens.
     
  3. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    There's a big place North of where the truck will be working that services them. Any thoughts on if we need a pro to install it? We're pretty mechanically inclined.

    Also, what's all this hype about "down pressure" that snoway talks about? Is it any different from any other plow?
     
  4. Rick547

    Rick547 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 535

    Yes it is. It will give you an extra 200# when needed. They are great plows.
     
  5. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    How are they with backdragging?
     
  6. stone74

    stone74 Member
    Messages: 52

    Down pressure is fantastic, I use a uhmw poly blade on mine works great, 99% of my driveways I back drag.
     
  7. djagusch

    djagusch 2000 Club Member
    from mn
    Messages: 2,071

    What year is the plow? Is it a mega way mount or like the 29r mount?

    I owned a v plow mega way series and it worked but was disappointed In it and sold it 2 yrs of use. The 29r mount style is suppose to be better but have seen issues while hanging out in the shop.

    Down pressure is a great feature but it will chew up the cutting edges if used alot.

    I'm guessing you are talking about plow world in east bethel for the shop. Great guys, excellent service, and they know these plows well. Before buying one I would talk to Chris about the plow your buying. He will know it's history.

    On the revolutions I know they had some quirks with the pump or something but they worked with snoway to get it just not fixed but so it won't happen again with some product improvement.
     
  8. Precedence

    Precedence Senior Member
    Messages: 110

    One thing I have found with the snoways is the solenoids they use are crappy, they blow apart after 4-5 storms. We change them out for western solenoids when they go to avoid further issues. Also the covers over the motors are a bad design and pop off from vibration and have to be retightened fairly often. We had an 26 series on our 1/2 ton and the brushes in the motor burned out after 2 years, the motor had to be replaced because the brushes cost as much as a new motor (brushes are usually cheap). Swapped out the 26 for a 26R this year as the motor is beefier and easily rebuilt.

    All in all they are ok plows with cool features at a good price.

    We currently have a 29R and 2 26R's and we used to have a 29 (sold with truck) and a 26 (traded for 26R). We also run 4 Arctic plows (orange ones made in London On) and they are more basic but more reliable plows.
     
  9. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270



    Don't know what mount it uses; all I know is it's the wide-out copy cat. I believe it's a 2012 model. He bought it out of state, brand new, and had it installed at Plow World.
     
  10. djagusch

    djagusch 2000 Club Member
    from mn
    Messages: 2,071

    It's actually much different than a wide out. The ends work and function differently.

    I would talk to Chris about the plow. I think it is a mega way style which is what it is.
     
  11. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    OK. Would you say the reliability is less than any of the other major brands (we have a BOSS V-XT and a Hiniker V)?
     
  12. djagusch

    djagusch 2000 Club Member
    from mn
    Messages: 2,071

    Hard to say as snoway is newer to the area in sales volume lately.

    All have their issues. I tried one and it was redesigned shortly after. So why are they redesigning some model less than 4 yrs old?

    I'm all boss now.
     
  13. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    OK, thanks for the info. I guess I'll talk more to the owner and get his take on the plow; at this point, if he's only asking $3 or $4k for it, I'd take a chance on it.
     
  14. YPLLLC

    YPLLLC Senior Member
    Messages: 144

    I have ran snoway plows since 2008. Out of all the plows I have had for various trucks. I still have a snoway on the truck I drive during the winter. It's my original, a 29T, I've never had a problem with a solenoid going out. I have had to replace the ECM in a 26 series I use to own, and am considering doing that in mine this year, seems there was a problem with them burning out after 5 or 6 years. But they fixed that in 2010 I believe. I would say if it is a good price get it. It holds up right with a boss or western or others. Even with the poly carbonate skin. Tough as hell!!!
     
  15. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,018

    Good, solid plows. And I really l really like the R series. I'd say if you have decent dealer support in your area go for it.
     
  16. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    We'll see how that works for you over the next couple transition years. You going to upgrade to the "Boss by Toro" Stickers???
     
  17. starspangled6.0

    starspangled6.0 Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    Great information, guys. I'm excited to give it a shot! We're bidding on some nice parking lots that would be a perfect test for the new setup.
     
  18. djagusch

    djagusch 2000 Club Member
    from mn
    Messages: 2,071

    So I was trying to make my posts as netural as possible but you asked for it.

    If it's a mega way plow don't buy it. From 07 to 2012 is the approximate years they made them. They needed to redesign the revolution as it had too many issues after the first year or two of production. That plow is why snoway isn't on the forum any more. I bought a snow way megaway v plow in 2011. Wireless module went out in middle of the storm. NothING you can do but bring it to the dealer. They had many issues with that batch of ecms and supposedly fixed now. The blade doesn't take grease at its pivot like most of the v plows do so how does that last? They redesigned the mounting system so you basically need plows of that vintage to swap plows which sucks if you have 5 trucks. The plastic motor cover studs will break. I went through 3 sets of lights because they didn't test them well enough. Supposedly they updated the light mount so they don't break bUT I sold it off before I cold say the issue was fixed or not. Also resale on them sucks, so be ready for that hit.

    So the dealer sold 5 of these premium v plows his first year selling snoway I know of. 5 of them were traded in or sold in 2 years time. 4 of them went to another brand. That speaks volumes of if they were happy or not. Now trying to be neutral he did sell some straight blades etc that were the 29 series that people kept or didn't come back for trade. Pretty sure a revolution is still for sale that is used at a shop.

    Anyways so now you will hear well that was the megaway series and the new 29 models are so great. Well here is how some stuff was described to me. The mount has similar pinning set up to the boss plow. The headlight mount is similar to the boss style now. Still have lack of grease points on the pivots of the v plow or 29r, unsure on the new style revolution. So on the 29 series models they have these bushings for the lift arm pivots that are breaking either due to lack of knowledge of them or they wear really fast. Why break in the first year? Some will say atleast it's a easy fix but it's a break down during a storm. Now on the latest revolution they quit selling them locally as they were burning up motors on them. Snoway claims they increased the cycle life of the motors now but who knows.

    The track record is that they fix something or redesign it but the redesign ends up having issues also.

    For the toro buying boss comment. If you can't beat them buy them. If you can't buy them try to copy them. You can tell where toro is compared to snoway. Also if snoway is such leaders from 1974 why don't they have the market share that boss or western have?
     
  19. djagusch

    djagusch 2000 Club Member
    from mn
    Messages: 2,071

    You have a great dealer to service the plow. That is the most positive thing going for you.
     
  20. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,992

    If MAC is such a leader why are we using so many IBMs? The Liberty was a much more rigid, solid platform for a off road/snowplow machine but you see a lot more Wranglers. The better mousetrap doesn't always get the best marketing and the public doesn't always make good decisions. Look at Washington, DC and Ferguson, MO.

    I was not criticizing Boss, I just find your comments about model changes amusing in light of the recent and coming changes at Boss.

    You expect no changes from the Toro purchase? Don't think there will be a new manifold in the near future or that analog control systems won't go away.