1. Welcome to PlowSite. Notice a fresh look and new features? It’s now easier to share photos and videos, find popular topics fast, and enjoy expanded user profiles. If you have any questions, click HELP at the top or bottom of any page, or send an email to help@plowsite.com. We welcome your feedback.

    Dismiss Notice

Any Predictions Yet?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by BRIMOW525, Aug 25, 2001.

  1. BRIMOW525

    BRIMOW525 Senior Member
    Messages: 259

    Just wondering if anyone has heard anything or think its too early to predict or have a feeling about the up coming 01-02 plowing season. I my self have heard that because of the cooler than normal summer( except for that one week) And the half way decent amout of rain, that we'll have a cold and snowy winter.... god I hope so! Anyone else?
  2. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    One thing I will say with my years of experience plowing snow is that I come down to a few conclusions.

    1. If it snows we are ready for it.

    2. It will snow, how much is the question.

    3. If we get a weak year one, the next year or the year after is bound to be much better.

    4. Snowplowing is not a quick rich biz. You need to be in it for the long haul. Every year there is a guy that goes to buy a new truck, and the dealership cons him into buying a plow with it. Then it snows 8 times during the winter, the guy doesn't charge enough, and says the heck with plowing, there is no money. If you don't make some money after 3 seasons you have business problems, not weather problems.


    JD PLOWER PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 751

    The only thing I know for certain after 13 yrs of pushing snow is, I know nothing about predicting snowfall amounts. And neither does my father, and he's been pushing snow for over thirty years. So I wouldn't worry too much about snowfall amounts, just remember to PRAY!!
  4. BRIMOW525

    BRIMOW525 Senior Member
    Messages: 259

    I wasn't sure if el nino or la nina has anything to do with the winters anymore. If not will we have more normal winters or I shpuld say more predictable weather?

    OBRYANMAINT PlowSite.com Veteran
    from ohio
    Messages: 534

    i am with geoff...prepare for the worst expect the least..

    i have one customer that swears the next five to tens years will be much snowier than the last... i hope he is correct
  6. SlimJim Z71

    SlimJim Z71 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,031

    I wish I could be as optimistic as others, but I don't think there's any way of knowing if it's going to be bad or good. The weathermen and women have proven themselves to be completely useless, and so far the Farmers Almanac hasn't been very accurate either. So... for me it's just a "wait and see" situation. I do agree though... prepare for the worst, and expect the least.

  7. Taconic

    Taconic PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 180

    I am with Geoff
  8. wolfie

    wolfie Senior Member
    Messages: 174

    I can remember one season that I only plowed 3 times and only one of them really had any amount of snow... I just hope this is NOT one of those years.........
  9. 66Construction

    66Construction Senior Member
    Messages: 315


    If it weren't for all those guys that sell their plows after on year there wouldn't be all these almost new plows floating around the wantads so cheap. I've seen a few hardly used HD fishers floating around for 1,200-1,800 already this year, one looked unused.
  10. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425

    I live in Hannibal NY near the tug hill plateau
    and we get clobbered every year.
    Hope i can find one of those barely used plows !
    new Fisher $3300 Western $2900 .
    In 1990 i payed $1300 for a new western.
  11. BLACK86

    BLACK86 Junior Member
    Messages: 2

  12. wolfie

    wolfie Senior Member
    Messages: 174

    Unless I'm missing something it only goes up to October of 2001... I wasn't expecting much snow in October anyway...
  13. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 2,266

    Well the Farmer's Almanac says I am going to be busy again this winter, with snow starting in late november.

    Who knows what to think

  14. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    There was an article in the newspaper about this. Like Geoff said, the Farmer's Almanac is predicting that we'll get a good amount of snow late this year into January. Article went on that without La Nina or El Nino effect, we will be back to "normal" for several years.

    If anyone knew for sure, they could make a fortune.
  15. BRIMOW525

    BRIMOW525 Senior Member
    Messages: 259

    I'm hoping for a decent winter. If anyone knows of a good used plow set up (everything but the truck).. let me know ..I bought a 95 K2500 and its longing for a plow for the winter:p
  16. BRL

    BRL PlowSite.com - Veteran
    Messages: 1,277

  17. CT18fireman

    CT18fireman Banned
    Messages: 2,133

    My father was an old farmer and he swore that the Old Farmers Alamanac was fairly accurate. He relied on it more than the weathermen on tv
  18. 75

    75 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,382

    Yes, snow in October 'cause that's when my Harley should be ready! :D (J/K)

    Actually, what I've been hearing is: a winter similar to last year, trend will probably be a few of those and then tapering back down to some mild ones.

    Agreed: If you could predict snow for sure you wouldn't need to worry about income from plowing it!
  19. JCurtis

    JCurtis Banned
    Messages: 862

    If I could predict snow I would be working at one of the big TV stations in NYC, instead of Sam Champion or Lee Goldberg...

    Making Mucho dinero for being wrong alot of the time!!!!

    If I was wrong in my job as much as weather forecasters are I would be unemployed.

    Read an article that said even with all the satelliates and computer forecast models, the forecasts are no more accurate than they were 80 years ago.

    Prepare for the worst and expect the least are words to live by!

    Jeff :D
  20. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    The people I interact with ( at a substantial cost outlay to them ) have indicated that the general weather pattern will be such that this coming winter will most likely be similar to last season. Additionally, it is expected that the next two to three winter seasons will have general weather patterns that suggest some considerable similarities to the most recent winter.

    These people gave me an outlook for last winter that was damned near dead on with what actually happened, and from the way it has been explained to me - the things that generate climate are predictable in generalities and not in specifics (such as "Syracuse will get 122" of snow".... this cannot be predicted).

    That's about as specific as can be expected at this time of year, from what my sources tell me.