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Any one use ATF fluid? my dealer said to use it

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by jo2fst4u, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. jo2fst4u

    jo2fst4u Member
    Messages: 98

    My dealer said it would be fine to use, I have a western uni mount pro plow. I thought i would ask around. What are the pro's and Con's of useing ATF fluid??


    Thanks
    Jeff
     
  2. skmodmsl

    skmodmsl Member
    Messages: 43

    I have a Fisher plow and I use ATF. I asked the Fisher dealer about what to use and he said Dexron ATF was what they used on new installs. He said that the Fisher fluid was on the expensive side. ATF is a hydraulic fluid.
     
  3. snooker

    snooker Member
    from Zone 7
    Messages: 77

    I wouldn’t use ATF unless it was an emergency. It works fine as long as the temperature doesn’t get too low. However, if the weather gets really cold, and depending on how much ATF you use in the mix, the fluid-mix could gel, and not flow through the pump. Which would make the hydraulics too sluggish to operate your plow.

    I don’t know about Western’s specifications, but some manufacturers recommend Military Specification (Mil. Spec.) 5606 hydraulic fluid, which is useful to –40 degrees. In a pinch, topping the fluid off with ATF shouldn’t hurt, but it’s not a good idea to use very much of it.
     
  4. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    too expensive? $20.00 a gallon is not expensive. if I got a BRAND NEW fisher with ATF I would shyt a brick
     
  5. mdb landscaping

    mdb landscaping Senior Member
    Messages: 823

    we run atf in all our plows......fishers, westerns and curtis.......
     
  6. jj112

    jj112 Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    I run all Meyers E-47 and E-60's. I learned a long time ago to never put ATF of any kind into that pump. As soon as it goes below 20 degrees it seems to gel, below 10 degrees it won't go through the valves and your plowing is over. I have heard that you can put ATF into the Fischer systems that run off of the truck engine that look like a power steering pump? Good Luck
     
  7. GpGuy84

    GpGuy84 Member
    Messages: 39

    ATF works fine for me... i have an old under the hood belt driven pump.
     
  8. hotsprings77

    hotsprings77 Member
    Messages: 31

    I think the dealer put ATF in my brand new western MVP plow last month. What color should the nice premo Western fluid look like, ie color. Usually plow when it is anywhere between -5 to 25 degrees. Plow seems really slow, have been using a boss v-plow since the beginning of the snow season, which is much faster. Any help would be great. mark
     
  9. jt5019

    jt5019 Senior Member
    Messages: 853

    I run atf in my 8 foot fisher it got down to -10 degrees without a problem.
     
  10. Turfmower

    Turfmower Senior Member
    Messages: 376

    that all I've ever run in my westerns. but dont put it in a meyer
     
  11. Bossplower

    Bossplower Member
    Messages: 89

    ATF is fine down to 15 outside once it gets down below that I would use good plow fluid . My first Boss V came with ATF but that was when they were under the hood . My Boss V is outside now and I'm not to cheap to spend 10$ for Boss fluid. It last a couple yrs. I can't see not spending $ 10.00 When I make 2K in one storm. I just spent 550.00 for a snow blower and 20.00 for a shovel .

    Steve
     
  12. wirenut

    wirenut Senior Member
    from nh
    Messages: 512

    i have used it for 20+ years no problems, its a gear pump
    it will move it....your power steering works dont it and that is
    prob a vane pump.....
    :nod:
     
  13. PLOWMAN45

    PLOWMAN45 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,830

    yeah the power steering pump is inside i only use atf in western everything else get hydraulic fluid ie meyers fisher
     
  14. shadled

    shadled Junior Member
    from SC Pa
    Messages: 19

    I have a Western Cable controled pump and all I use is ATF.

    I have read on this site that meyer pumps do not perform well with ATF, but never had a problem with my Western.
     
  15. acornish

    acornish Senior Member
    Messages: 184

    call northern supply they have the blue hydrolic fluid for abou $4 a quart works down to -40 deg. Dextron 3 or standard atf frezes at -4 deg.--- thats why auto tranys strain in the cold till they warm up
     
  16. Robhollar

    Robhollar Senior Member
    Messages: 766

    Theres an old saying that i live by: " Oil is cheeper then metal" ....Rob
     
  17. mylawn03

    mylawn03 Senior Member
    Messages: 229

    Seems to me they put 'Western' Hyd. fluid in 'Western' Pumps for a reason...Old plow maybe, but a brand new plow? Never...
     
  18. The Boss

    The Boss 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,099

    I spend the $6.00 per qt. and get Boss hyd. fluid.:waving:
     
  19. landman

    landman Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 185

    I know that our western pumps have a sticker right on them that says Change fluid annually use ATF Dextron. Now this is a little round sticker about 1" round right on the top of the pump it was there from the factory. We also have Alot of Meyers pumps too and those you cann not use ATF in.