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Any do's and dont's on implementing liquids?

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Jason Johnson, Nov 3, 2014.

  1. Jason Johnson

    Jason Johnson Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    We are going to start testing applying liquids for anti icing as well as pre-wetting salt for deicing. Anything from what liquid material to use as well as how much and when. Also how you are charging for this on T&M, per occurrence, and event contracts. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. rrplowing

    rrplowing Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    IceBGone Magic of Dayton. It's works to -40 below zero when used straight. When we blend it into brine, we put 20% magic. It works down to -20 below zero. We use half the amount of product but still charge the same as you would for regular salt. We get better results and faster results. We also picked up a few accounts just because it's on the EPA list for safe chemistry for the Environment . Let me know if you have any other questions. There number is 937-823-8743. Great people to do business with
     
  3. SaratogaSnowPro

    SaratogaSnowPro Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    You would charge the same as a salt application... IBG Magic works great!
     
  4. Drottlawn

    Drottlawn Senior Member
    Messages: 364

    Do you happen to know what it costs per gallon? I have multiple totes to get filled. Thanks!
     
  5. rrplowing

    rrplowing Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    The liquid straight is $4.00 a gallon. It goes a long way. I also buy there hot brine that is $1.65 a gallon. I just got a full load of 4000 gallons. Should last me the hole season.
     
  6. Jason Johnson

    Jason Johnson Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Our sister company that does retail is brining in a tanker load later this week or early next week to sell. They are going to load out smaller orders from it. Looks like going to be around $1-$2 a gallon depending on quantity. Works to -25 with 20% calcium, 3% magnesium, 5% sodium, 1% potassium. www.eejohnson.com 740-383-3205 ask for Heather in Sales/Customer Service.
     
  7. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,865

    Just out of curiousity, when is the last time it was -20* in Cincy?
     
  8. Jason Johnson

    Jason Johnson Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Last time the Bengals were in the Super Bowl?!?! HAHA
     
  9. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,865

    :laughing::laughing::laughing:
     
  10. aloe

    aloe Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 285

    IBG here in NY is $7 per gallon
     
  11. Icemelters

    Icemelters Inactive
    Messages: 19

    rr

    please explain to me the cost of the mixtures you are using. Are you using straight brine mixture or are you spraying salt. How many gallons do you need per ton of salt to treat?
     
  12. Icemelters

    Icemelters Inactive
    Messages: 19

    rr

    one other thing if you don't mind--what makes the brine hot? Is the brine a simple calcium brine or are you buying something like Sully hot brine that is reformulated (how I don't know) well brine.
     
  13. SaratogaSnowPro

    SaratogaSnowPro Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    $7 damn! In the Albany market I get it from Brennan Landscaping and it's only $2.72 a gallon ...
     
  14. JTVLandscaping

    JTVLandscaping Senior Member
    Messages: 860

    Do you use it to brine your salt or do you use it directly on surfaces?
     
  15. Jet Stream

    Jet Stream Junior Member
    Messages: 27

    I'll Quote You Brine and/or bulk salt

    While exact concentrations will vary, our liquid Calcium Chloride Blend (Brine) contains:
    21 to 24% Calcium Chloride
    4.11 to 5% Magnesium Chloride
    1.68 to 2% Potassium Chloride
    3.78 to 4% Sodium Chloride

    4400 gallons +- = truckload

    I'm happy to give you a quote. BTW, I've never quoted anywhere near $2 a gallon to anyone on east coast, way below that!
    Susan, Jet Stream Fuels, 786-566-0195/scromer@jetstreamfuels.com

    Have you seen our ad on Plowsite? We DID NOT run out of salt last year!
    We have bulk or bagged salt and brine by the truckload.
    ussmileyflag
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2014
  16. SaratogaSnowPro

    SaratogaSnowPro Junior Member
    Messages: 21

    We are now doing both with the Ice b gone magic..